Is Trump doing a good job?

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Re: Is Trump doing a good job?

Post by vnatale » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:39 pm

I first heard it on the Sports Talk Radio station I have on all the time (along with C-Span being on all the time).

I was not fully listening but then I was hearing some things and said to myself, "He did not really say that, did he??!!"

Then I finally caught on what was going on.

The three hosts could not restrain themselves from outbursts of laughter as it was being played.

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Re: Is Trump doing a good job?

Post by Tortoise » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:21 pm

vnatale wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:39 pm
The three hosts could not restrain themselves from outbursts of laughter as it was being played.
Like how Fauci couldn't contain his laughter and had to cover his face after Trump cracked the joke about the "Deep State Department" during the recent press briefing?

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Re: Is Trump doing a good job?

Post by Xan » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:11 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:21 pm
vnatale wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:39 pm
The three hosts could not restrain themselves from outbursts of laughter as it was being played.
Like how Fauci couldn't contain his laughter and had to cover his face after Trump cracked the joke about the "Deep State Department" during the recent press briefing?

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Is this the guy who tells us to not touch our faces?
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Re: Is Trump doing a good job?

Post by vnatale » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:34 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:21 pm
vnatale wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:39 pm
The three hosts could not restrain themselves from outbursts of laughter as it was being played.
Like how Fauci couldn't contain his laughter and had to cover his face after Trump cracked the joke about the "Deep State Department" during the recent press briefing?

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Who serves at the pleasure of the same president who exhorts us to maintain social distancing.

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Re: Is Trump doing a good job?

Post by Cortopassi » Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:53 am

Ahh, it's refreshing to have some normal Trumpiness for once. Some things don't change. Oh, yeah, sure, give us 48 hours and we'll have a CAR plant retooled to make ventilators. Easy peasy.

We got a lot of engineers here, right? Why even give the impression this is doable in a quick fashion? Even if you took an existing design, you still have to source and create parts, PCBs, make tooling, test fixtures, etc, etc.

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Re: Is Trump doing a good job?

Post by vnatale » Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:54 am

Cortopassi wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:53 am
Ahh, it's refreshing to have some normal Trumpiness for once. Some things don't change. Oh, yeah, sure, give us 48 hours and we'll have a CAR plant retooled to make ventilators. Easy peasy.

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Yet to his supporters this is all just.....


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Re: Is Trump doing a good job?

Post by dualstow » Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:48 am

Only tangentially about Trump: John Kerry agreeing with him. There *is* a tear in the fabric of the universe.

Kerry tweeted:
Breaking news: Congressman Massie has tested positive for being an asshole. He must be quarantined to prevent the spread of his massive stupidity. He's given new meaning to the term #Masshole. (Finally, something the president and I can agree on!)
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Re: Is Trump doing a good job?

Post by Tortoise » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:08 pm

A few questions:
  • Why is Trump focusing on producing more ventilators rather than more tests and treatments (e.g., hydrochloroquine)? If CV patients are treated and get better quickly, the vast majority of them won't end up on ventilators.
  • If we look at the nations that have handled their CV outbreaks most effectively thus far (such as South Korea), didn't their effectiveness come largely from their early, widespread testing and tracking -- not from massive numbers of ventilators?
  • Whether we decide to focus on producing more tests, treatments, or ventilators, why does Trump need to convince companies via Twitter to help? Why not invoke wartime powers to forcibly convert certain factories immediately? This pandemic is a world war with a virus, is it not?
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Re: Is Trump doing a good job?

Post by vnatale » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:11 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:08 pm
A few questions:
  • Why is Trump focusing on producing more ventilators rather than more tests and treatments (e.g., hydrochloroquine)? If CV patients are treated and get better quickly, the vast majority of them won't end up on ventilators.
  • If we look at the nations that have handled their CV outbreaks most effectively thus far (such as South Korea), didn't their effectiveness come largely from their early, widespread testing and tracking -- not from massive numbers of ventilators?
  • Whether we decide to focus on producing more tests, treatments, or ventilators, why does Trump need to convince companies via Twitter to help? Why not invoke wartime powers to forcibly convert certain factories immediately? This pandemic is a world war with a virus, is it not?
Generally those who operate out of their deep belief in their instincts do NOT operate out of logic!

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Re: Is Trump doing a good job?

Post by flyingpylon » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:36 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:08 pm
A few questions:
  • Why is Trump focusing on producing more ventilators rather than more tests and treatments (e.g., hydrochloroquine)? If CV patients are treated and get better quickly, the vast majority of them won't end up on ventilators.
  • If we look at the nations that have handled their CV outbreaks most effectively thus far (such as South Korea), didn't their effectiveness come largely from their early, widespread testing and tracking -- not from massive numbers of ventilators?
  • Whether we decide to focus on producing more tests, treatments, or ventilators, why does Trump need to convince companies via Twitter to help? Why not invoke wartime powers to forcibly convert certain factories immediately? This pandemic is a world war with a virus, is it not?
Perhaps the processes for obtaining more tests and treatments are going much more smoothly but ventilators need the attention right now.

Perhaps he was told one thing by these companies and now he’s being told another and he’s hacked off about it.

Perhaps, like much of the world, he recognizes that public shaming via social media can be somewhat effective. How and where it’s effective may not always be obvious to us.

Just speculating of course.
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Re: Is Trump doing a good job?

Post by vnatale » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:44 pm

Libertarian666 wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:39 pm
Tortoise wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:08 pm
A few questions:
  • Why is Trump focusing on producing more ventilators rather than more tests and treatments (e.g., hydrochloroquine)? If CV patients are treated and get better quickly, the vast majority of them won't end up on ventilators.
  • If we look at the nations that have handled their CV outbreaks most effectively thus far (such as South Korea), didn't their effectiveness come largely from their early, widespread testing and tracking -- not from massive numbers of ventilators?
  • Whether we decide to focus on producing more tests, treatments, or ventilators, why does Trump need to convince companies via Twitter to help? Why not invoke wartime powers to forcibly convert certain factories immediately? This pandemic is a world war with a virus, is it not?
He can walk and chew gum at the same time.
All of those things are in the works right now.
As to why he doesn't force companies to act when they are coming forward to volunteer, I'm not sure how to explain that if it isn't obvious.
Because most effective leadership requires making orders to utilize ALL available resources, not just those volunteered.

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Re: Is Trump doing a good job?

Post by Tortoise » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:52 pm

flyingpylon wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:36 pm
Perhaps the processes for obtaining more tests and treatments are going much more smoothly but ventilators need the attention right now.
Libertarian666 wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:39 pm
All of those things are in the works right now.
If ramping up production of treatments (like hydroxychloroquine) are underway and are going smoothly, have we been getting regular updates about it from the government? My understanding is that thus far, we haven’t.
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