Is this for real? (Social Credit Score, Big Tech, & the Right to Own a Gun)

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Is this for real? (Social Credit Score, Big Tech, & the Right to Own a Gun)

Post by Maddy » Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:05 pm

According to this article, the Trump administration is considering using a Chinese-style "social credit score" to determine whether a person should have the right to own a gun. And who better to gather data for the social credit score than Amazon, Google, and the other tech giants who would utilize their in-home listening devices, among other things, to determine whether an individual is psychologically predisposed toward violence.

https://www.wnd.com/2019/09/trump-impos ... score-gun/

Please tell me this is some kind of hoax.
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Post by technovelist » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:46 pm

WND has reported 10 out of the last 0 cases of something like this happening.
And they are quoting from an article in the Washington Compost.
Doesn't sound like a very serious issue to me.
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Post by l82start » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:53 am

i would say it is fake news/click bait from the right and not likely based very heavily on reality.. would google face book etc. want an Orwellian social credit system from a communist dictatorship.. OF COURSE THEY WOULD.. everything else in the article seems like nonsense..
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Re: Is this for real? (Social Credit Score, Big Tech, & the Right to Own a Gun)

Post by Maddy » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:57 pm

In early August, in the wake of the shooting at an El Paso Walmart, President Trump called on big tech companies to collaborate with the Justice Department in the creation of software that “stops mass murders before they start” by detecting potential mass shooters before they can act. Though Trump’s ideas were short on specifics, there is now a new proposal that would create a new government agency that will use data gathered from civilian electronic devices to identify “neurobehavioral” warning signs, thereby flagging “potential shooters” for increased surveillance and potentially detention.

This new agency, as proposed by the foundation led by former NBC Universal president and vice chairman of General Electric Robert Wright, would be known as the Health Advanced Research Projects Agency (HARPA) and would be modeled after the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). Per the proposal, recently detailed by the Washington Post, the flagship program of HARPA would be “Safe Home” (Stopping Aberrant Fatal Events by Helping Overcome Mental Extremes), which would use “breakthrough technologies with high specificity and sensitivity for early diagnosis of neuropsychiatric violence,” specifically “advanced analytical tools based on artificial intelligence and machine learning.”

The program would cost an estimated $60 million over four years and would use data from “Apple Watches, Fitbits, Amazon Echo and Google Home” and other consumer electronic devices, as well as information provided by health-care providers to identify who may be a threat.
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Liz Fed — president of the Susan Wright Foundation, which is led by Robert Wright and created the proposal for HARPA and “Safe Home” — told The Post that the proposal emulated DARPA because “DARPA is a brilliant model that works. They have developed the most transformational capabilities in the world for national security…We’re not leveraging the tools and technologies available to us to improve and save lives.” Fed further asserted that DARPA’s technological approach had yet to be applied to the field of healthcare.

For anyone familiar with DARPA, such claims should immediately sound loud alarm bells, especially since DARPA is already developing its own solution to “mental health” issues in the form of a “brain-machine interface” as part of its N3 program. That program, according to reports, involves “noninvasive and ‘minutely’ invasive neural interfaces to both read and write into the brain,” help distance soldiers “from the emotional guilt of warfare” by “clouding their perception” and “to program artificial memories of fear, desire, and experiences directly into the brain.” Though N3 is intended to improve the prowess of American soldiers, it is also set to be used as a means of pursuing DARPA’s Systems-Based Neurotechnology for Emerging Therapies (SUBNETS) project, which aims to “to develop a tiny, implanted chip in the skull to treat psychiatric disorders such as anxiety, PTSD and major depression.”

Given that HARPA’s lead scientific adviser is Dr. Geoffrey Ling, former director and founder of DARPA’s Biological Technologies Office (BTO), which “merges biology, engineering, and computer science to harness the power of natural systems for national security,” it seems likely that DARPA’s neurological-focused research programs, like SUBNETS and N3, would be folded into HARPA’s portfolio, making the proposed agency’s approach to mental health very questionable indeed.
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Re: Is this for real? (Social Credit Score, Big Tech, & the Right to Own a Gun)

Post by dualstow » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:33 pm

Good movie, Minority Report.
”My option is to displace the mayor of New York City and bring in the National Guard -- as the governor, in a state of emergency -- and basically take over the mayor's job," Cuomo said. He quickly added that, "I don't think we are at that point,"
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Post by technovelist » Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:33 am

dualstow wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:33 pm
Good movie, Minority Report.
Yes, but it was supposed to be a warning, not a manual.
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Post by dualstow » Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:08 am

Yep
”My option is to displace the mayor of New York City and bring in the National Guard -- as the governor, in a state of emergency -- and basically take over the mayor's job," Cuomo said. He quickly added that, "I don't think we are at that point,"
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Re: Is this for real? (Social Credit Score, Big Tech, & the Right to Own a Gun)

Post by ochotona » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:44 am

Gun sales are going to go through the roof if a Democrat gets elected
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Re: Is this for real? (Social Credit Score, Big Tech, & the Right to Own a Gun)

Post by shekels » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:11 am

ochotona wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:44 am
Gun sales are going to go through the roof if a Democrat gets elected
Gun Sales are Starting Early . Beto is such a good Salesman.

It is likely no coincidence at all that a “Beto Special” gun deal offered by one outfit — Arizona-based Alfa Dog Firearms — sold out on its select, $349.99-priced AR-15s in less than four hours on Friday.

https://www.lifezette.com/2019/09/beto- ... gun-obama/
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Re: Is this for real? (Social Credit Score, Big Tech, & the Right to Own a Gun)

Post by Kriegsspiel » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:09 pm

Which AR were they selling for $350?
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Re: Is this for real? (Social Credit Score, Big Tech, & the Right to Own a Gun)

Post by shekels » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:44 pm

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:09 pm
Which AR were they selling for $350?
One sale offered an American Tactical Import Omni Hybrid Maxx Semi-automatic rifle for $349.99, with more sales to be added, the gun store claimed.

Go to www.alphadogfirearmsaz.com and look for all our AR15 and AK47 deals under the BETO SPECIALS tab. Deals and discounts will be added fresh all day!
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