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Re: Mueller's Testimony

Post by jacksonM » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:24 am

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After a little nosing around, I see that Mueller has appeared before Congress a total of 88 times since 1990. Many, if not all, of those appearances were videotaped and are available on the internet. I went back and reviewed just a couple of clips from the last few months. Absolutely nothing in his testimony or demeanor suggests anything less than a full grasp on what was going on. Not a single figure in the media--left or right--seems to have noticed anything either.
They were noticing it on the Laura Ingraham show. Several people said they knew Bob Mueller and this was not the person they knew.

If he really is declining mentally that much at age 74 that's pretty sad to see. He's only a year older than Trump and 4 years older than me.
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Re: Mueller's Testimony

Post by dualstow » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:20 am

Reagan made his announcement at the age of 83 in 1994 (says wiki). I wonder how old he really was when it began.
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Re: Mueller's Testimony

Post by Maddy » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:58 am

It's not that hard to imagine a front man being kept clueless by a team of supposed subordinates. However, the fact that half the citizens in this country knew what was going on--right down to the sordid details--makes that theory impossible for me to buy.

Regarding my earlier comment about no one having noticed anything, what I meant was that I'm not aware of anyone noticing anything wrong with Mueller prior to his appearance this week. His supposed illness appeared as suddenly as Hillary's did, and at exactly the same "gotcha" moment.
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Re: Mueller's Testimony

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Re: Mueller's Testimony

Post by sophie » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:43 am

Finally got a look at the videos of the testimony.

Armchair diagnosis being what it is....it looked to me like he had problems understanding rapid fire, Southern-accented speech. So maybe some hearing loss, perhaps on top of existing difficulty following auditory information (which is very common). Otherwise, he looked ok cognitive-wise to me, although I don't have a previous comparison.

I thought his main problem was that he was doing his level best to convey his report's findings without actually stating them clearly. That's difficult under any circumstances. For example, I gathered that he thought that Trump did indeed step across the "obstruction of justice" legal line, but not severely enough to provide a strong case for impeachment. He responded "yes" confidently several times to direct questions about whether Trump could be indicted once he was out of office. Why he had to go down the "I couldn't exonerate him" path I'm not quite sure, because that's a strange legal concept. Also, since his "could not exonerate" line was limited to obstruction of justice, it was also pretty clear that he had nothing of substance on Trump with respect to Russian election interference (i.e. the original goal of the investigation). Like, he couldn't connect his real estate interests in Moscow with election hacking.
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Re: Mueller's Testimony

Post by jacksonM » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:21 pm

sophie wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:43 am
Finally got a look at the videos of the testimony.

Armchair diagnosis being what it is....it looked to me like he had problems understanding rapid fire....
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