My research question: is palladium (or platinum) worth a look as part of the gold component in the PP? (I can already hear the resounding "NO!" from the chorus of purists )
In a bout of self indulgence, I compiled year over year return data from 1970-2015 for the 4 major precious metals (January to January returns):
GOLD
MIN -27.69%
MAX 99.74%
AVERAGE 10.63%
MEDIAN 3.28%
% UP YEARS: 64.44%
SILVER
MIN -48.35%
MAX 400.00%
AVERAGE 13.75%
MEDIAN 0.00%
% UP YEARS: 48.89%
PLATINUM
MIN -39.91%
MAX 125.83%
AVERAGE 8.35%
MEDIAN 5.39%
% UP YEARS: 57.78%
PALLADIUM
MIN -61.90%
MAX 203.89%
AVERAGE 17.53%
MEDIAN 9.13%
% UP YEARS: 60.00%
Some conclusions:
- Silver is a zero sum game and appears to be a gamble over the others
- Palladium offers nearly the same chance of an up year compared with gold, with about a 2x risk profile , the volatility may be too much for a PP but perhaps it is the most superior metals play in a VP
- Gold offers a more reliable chance of a positive return than platinum with lower risk and lower downside
Hopefully someone finds this data useful!
Precious metals historical data shootout + Platinum /Palladium:
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Precious metals historical data shootout + Platinum /Palladium:
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- MachineGhost
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Re: Precious metals historical data shootout + Platinum /Palladium:
NO! It's an industrial metal like platinum (substitute actually), silver and other rare earth metals.
"All generous minds have a horror of what are commonly called 'Facts'. They are the brute beasts of the intellectual domain." -- Thomas Hobbes
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Disclaimer: I am not a broker, dealer, investment advisor, physician, theologian or prophet. I should not be considered as legally permitted to render such advice!
Re: Precious metals historical data shootout + Platinum /Palladium:
Why has Palladium performed better than the other shiny things during 2013-2015?
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Re: Precious metals historical data shootout + Platinum /Palladium:
The demand has been greater than the supply. Now the platinum price are sinking because enough investment has been made to secure the needed greater supply.ochotona wrote: Why has Palladium performed better than the other shiny things during 2013-2015?
Re: Precious metals historical data shootout + Platinum /Palladium:
That's interesting about platinum... any thoughts about where palladium supply / demand are headed? I thought palladium was used in parallel with platinum in automotive catalytic converters, but palladium's price has really been different than platinum's.
I wish there were some lithium ETFs, but my understanding is that this metal is not publicly traded.
I wish there were some lithium ETFs, but my understanding is that this metal is not publicly traded.
lordmetroid wrote:The demand has been greater than the supply. Now the platinum price are sinking because enough investment has been made to secure the needed greater supply.ochotona wrote: Why has Palladium performed better than the other shiny things during 2013-2015?
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Re: Precious metals historical data shootout + Platinum /Palladium:
Platinum is used in diesel automobiles.
Palladium is used in gasoline automobiles.
China has a pollution problem.
2 + 2 = 4.
Palladium is used in gasoline automobiles.
China has a pollution problem.
2 + 2 = 4.
"All generous minds have a horror of what are commonly called 'Facts'. They are the brute beasts of the intellectual domain." -- Thomas Hobbes
Disclaimer: I am not a broker, dealer, investment advisor, physician, theologian or prophet. I should not be considered as legally permitted to render such advice!
Disclaimer: I am not a broker, dealer, investment advisor, physician, theologian or prophet. I should not be considered as legally permitted to render such advice!