The GOLD scream room

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dualstow wrote:
europeanwizard wrote:Do you guys actively trade on gold? Maybe as part of your variable portfolio?
I've got the buying part down. Now if it would just go high enough for me to do some selling! O0
Some people are never satisfied! :P
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This might be the biggest jump in the price of gold I've seen in one day since I started the PP. (+1.67%)

Now my overall gold holdings are only down 7.39% since the time of purchase (starting in 2011 - a very bad year with another to follow).
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farjean2 wrote:This might be the biggest jump in the price of gold I've seen in one day since I started the PP. (+1.67%)
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Thanks, NK Kim dynasty.

Gold may move back down with stocks moving back up, but the pp really does provide a smooth ride for the most part. As advertised.
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If it truly is because of North Korea, we can expect it to drop back shortly.

However, gold is starting to feel a bit different lately. A little stronger. I need to see it hold 1300 for a few weeks before I get excited.

But it certainly has helped smooth the pp out for sure. New 2017 high for me today.
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Cortopassi wrote:If it truly is because of North Korea, we can expect it to drop back shortly.

However, gold is starting to feel a bit different lately. A little stronger. I need to see it hold 1300 for a few weeks before I get excited.

But it certainly has helped smooth the pp out for sure. New 2017 high for me today.
We shall see, but essentially it has gone exactly nowhere since Feb 2016 bouncing mainly between 1200 and 1300.
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Ahhh...one of those days to kick back and watch bonds and gold overcome the stock market downturn....at least for now...
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Cortopassi wrote:Ahhh...one of those days to kick back and watch bonds and gold overcome the stock market downturn....at least for now...
Last month, I thought I had plenty of time to set up a new checking account from which to buy gold. Oops. :) No complaints here, though.
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Gold hanging in there, treasuries are a bust with equities declining.
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buddtholomew wrote:Gold hanging in there, treasuries are a bust with equities declining.
Long bonds have been doing fine, haven't they?
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Yeah my comment was before an auction this morning where treasuries were a little subdued even with almost a 1% decline in the S&P. Rallied late in the day just fine.
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It is all so predictable. Latest threat from N. Korea is "over." Run the slam gold algorithm...
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Cortopassi wrote:It is all so predictable. Latest threat from N. Korea is "over." Run the slam gold algorithm...
Such crap...same for treasuries.
Makes me sick to ever have found this portfolio.

That was raw emotion this morning after 14 hours of migrating our enterprise reporting environment to AWS.
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buddtholomew wrote:Makes me sick to ever have found this portfolio.
Right? I'm the dumbest smart person I know.
Don't agree with me too strongly or I'm going to change my mind
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I challenge you to find someone dumber than me.
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buddtholomew wrote:I challenge you to find someone dumber than me.
Right here, buddy O0
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Re: The GOLD scream room

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Takes bow and exists stage right...
Leave on a good note...

Reminds me next time to take profits in Gold and Treasuries when they arise.
I considered it this go-around but the $ amounts aren't large enough to warrant trading (e.g. remove 100K to cash from 500K Gold holding and it moves down 10%, your 100K lost 0K but your 400K lost 40K. You end up savings yourself 10K/500K or a 2% loss but you still lost 40K or 8% of total, incl. cash.). Just doesn't seem worthwhile.
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buddtholomew wrote:Reminds me next time to take profits in Gold
Except for a few hours during the Brexit vote, my gold holdings have been in the red since 2013... :-[

Sure would like to see it go above and stay above $1350 in my lifetime again...
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I doubt other portfolios would be less maddening overall, but gold is the worst asset to watch. My backtest spreadsheet shows 52% positive months between January 1971 and April 2016. Back and forth, back and forth. And, yes, budd, it really stinks when gold and bonds are tracking together.
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Cortopassi wrote:
Except for a few hours during the Brexit vote, my gold holdings have been in the red since 2013... :-[
2011 for me. Fires in Birmingham, UK.
But hey, Libertarian666 was virtually all gold and doing ok.
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And the rise is now attributed to Trump disbanding the CEO group, at least on a couple sites. Sure. Ok. I'll take it anyway.
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What rise- oh. Cool.
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I'd say cha-ching, but I'm too negative.
Don't agree with me too strongly or I'm going to change my mind
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Why do some of those cheesy gold ads on tv say they're selling gold "at cost" ?
Isn't that false advertising?
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Re: The GOLD scream room

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DS, no posting in this chat unless Gold is +/- 2%.
I'm running out of my heart medication ;)
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buddtholomew wrote:DS, no posting in this chat unless Gold is +/- 2%.
I'm running out of my heart medication ;)
O0 apologies
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