The GOLD scream room

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Re: The GOLD scream room

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I guess...
Gold closed at the lows + 1.3 with the S&P down 2.1%. TLT was down so nothing magical.
70/30 allocation is bruised but to be expected. After today, both 70/30 and PP should be down about the same YTD.
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Classic, budd. I spoke too soon while the stocks loss was smaller. But corto is also right on: gold is still tops on the YTD (and has been the 3mo leader all month).
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Mr Vacuum wrote:Classic, budd. I spoke too soon while the stocks loss was smaller. But corto is also right on: gold is still tops on the YTD (and has been the 3mo leader all month).
I can’t let the team down now ;)
The benefits of holding a PP over an equity-centric portfolio are becoming much more evident as my variant of the PP is 1/5 the volatility of the 70/30 over the last couple days.
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buddtholomew wrote:
Mr Vacuum wrote:Classic, budd. I spoke too soon while the stocks loss was smaller. But corto is also right on: gold is still tops on the YTD (and has been the 3mo leader all month).
I can’t let the team down now ;)
The benefits of holding a PP over an equity-centric portfolio are becoming much more evident as my variant of the PP is 1/5 the volatility of the 70/30 over the last couple days.
Glad to hear that you are finally seeing some benefits!
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Libertarian666 wrote: Glad to hear that you are finally seeing some benefits!
Just wait a little. :-)
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Doesn't warrant its own thread, but here's an opinion piece from the WSJ on metal tariffs, gold and fiat money. (Really the latter two).
I am not for or against it; just think of me as a bot responsible for bringing gold-related articles here.
I made an archive so you should be able to read it without a subscription.

http://archive.is/d3eES
9pm EST Explosions in Iran (Isfahan) and Syria and Iraq. Not yet confirmed.
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So sad, but expected for sure.
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Re: The GOLD scream room

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Just a little happy screaming here...

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Well, SO glad the latest WWIII crisis has been averted...at least until tomorrow.

What an amazing change in volatility 2018 has brought.
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That’s the PP for you.
Gold and Treasuries selling off post false positive crisis.
I feel even more confident holding a higher percentage in equities.
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Schwab just published a note to clients suggesting as much as 9% of a portfolio could be devoted to gold. I've never heard that from them before.
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ochotona wrote:Schwab just published a note to clients suggesting as much as 9% of a portfolio could be devoted to gold. I've never heard that from them before.
Did they give a reason for that (maximum) percentage?
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dualstow wrote:
ochotona wrote:Schwab just published a note to clients suggesting as much as 9% of a portfolio could be devoted to gold. I've never heard that from them before.
Did they give a reason for that (maximum) percentage?
No reason given. Here's the article:

https://www.schwab.com/resource-center/ ... cmp=em-QYD
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dualstow wrote:
ochotona wrote:Schwab just published a note to clients suggesting as much as 9% of a portfolio could be devoted to gold. I've never heard that from them before.
Did they give a reason for that (maximum) percentage?
It's less than 10%? ;)
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9% is huge for Schwab
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Yeah, it does seem large for Schwab. I've never used them, but I grew up knowing who Charles Schwab was and just associate them with stocks.
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Buy the dip?
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Jesse Felder is talking about gold on his podcast. I'm looking forward to hearing it.

https://thefelderreport.com/2018/05/08/ ... licy-gold/
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Desert wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 9:52 pm
ochotona wrote: Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:00 pm 9% is huge for Schwab
I wonder if it would be ok to round up to 10%.....
It’s actually 9.99% pure Au
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Desert wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 8:46 pm
buddtholomew wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 12:33 pm
Desert wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 9:52 pm

I wonder if it would be ok to round up to 10%.....
It’s actually 9.99% pure Au
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Mine's 99 44/100% pure.
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Honest to God, I don't even remember this conversation, but I logged it in Facebook on 5/7/2011

"About a week or two ago I told a young fellow that silver was going hyperbolic, to sell his silver holdings. I don't think he listened to me."
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I am officially past gold. Silly cliff dive charts like this don't even bother me anymore. It's just another asset.

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Cortopassi wrote: Mon May 14, 2018 1:32 pm I am officially past gold. Silly cliff dive charts like this don't even bother me anymore. It's just another asset.

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The less you hold the easier it becomes >:D
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Cortopassi wrote: Mon May 14, 2018 1:32 pm I am officially past gold. Silly cliff dive charts like this don't even bother me anymore. It's just another asset.

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Rule #1 of chart analysis: Check the scale. ;)
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Re: The GOLD scream room

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Tyler wrote: Mon May 14, 2018 11:39 pm
Cortopassi wrote: Mon May 14, 2018 1:32 pm I am officially past gold. Silly cliff dive charts like this don't even bother me anymore. It's just another asset.

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Rule #1 of chart analysis: Check the scale. ;)
Of course! Unfortunately I need to add this. Looks like gold is going sub 1300 yet again. How many years now???

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