Goldman Sachs acquired AAAU

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Goldman Sachs acquired AAAU

Post by pmward » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:59 am

Goldman Sachs has acquired AAAU https://www.gsam.com/content/gsam/globa ... d_ETF.html

"Upon closing, it is expected that GSAM will become the sole sponsor of the fund and a new third-party custodian will be appointed."

All I have to say is: BOOOOOO!!!!

Time to sell all AAAU for GLDM or IAU, imo.
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Re: Goldman Sachs acquired AAAU

Post by technovelist » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:56 pm

pmward wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:59 am
Goldman Sachs has acquired AAAU https://www.gsam.com/content/gsam/globa ... d_ETF.html

"Upon closing, it is expected that GSAM will become the sole sponsor of the fund and a new third-party custodian will be appointed."

All I have to say is: BOOOOOO!!!!

Time to sell all AAAU for GLDM or IAU, imo.
The new third-party custodian will probably be "Louie the Finger".
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Re: Goldman Sachs acquired AAAU

Post by I Shrugged » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:33 pm

That's discouraging. I'd like to know what changes will be made.
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Re: Goldman Sachs acquired AAAU

Post by pmward » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:55 pm

I Shrugged wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:33 pm
That's discouraging. I'd like to know what changes will be made.
New sponsor and new third-party custodian. It sounds like the whole thing is changing and Perth Mint will have no part going forward. Physical redemptions are sure to be axed. Basically, the reasons I liked the ETF over something like GLDM are basically gone now. It's a bummer. It was a good ETF while it lasted.
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Re: Goldman Sachs acquired AAAU

Post by Sherlock » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:04 pm

What is the next best alternative? IAU? PHYS?
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Re: Goldman Sachs acquired AAAU

Post by technovelist » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:18 pm

Sherlock wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:04 pm
What is the next best alternative? IAU? PHYS?
I recommend Global Gold.
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Re: Goldman Sachs acquired AAAU

Post by I Shrugged » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:01 pm

pmward wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:55 pm
I Shrugged wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:33 pm
That's discouraging. I'd like to know what changes will be made.
New sponsor and new third-party custodian. It sounds like the whole thing is changing and Perth Mint will have no part going forward. Physical redemptions are sure to be axed. Basically, the reasons I liked the ETF over something like GLDM are basically gone now. It's a bummer. It was a good ETF while it lasted.
Yes, I was wondering if PM would be involved or not. If not, and no redemptions, that's bad news. And I wonder if they will raise the expense ratio too.
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Re: Goldman Sachs acquired AAAU

Post by boglerdude » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:26 am

Theories on why Goldman did this?
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Re: Goldman Sachs acquired AAAU

Post by PrimalToker » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:43 am

boglerdude wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:26 am
Theories on why Goldman did this?
It's cheaper than starting their own ETF and they foresee a gold bull run and want to get in on it. They will recommend their gold fund to their clients so they can collect the fees.
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Re: Goldman Sachs acquired AAAU

Post by Xan » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:50 am

How about why Perth did it?
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Re: Goldman Sachs acquired AAAU

Post by PrimalToker » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:57 am

Xan wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:50 am
How about why Perth did it?
They foresee a gold bull run and want to get out of it. Keeping up with the physical redemption is going to get expensive. Instead of "going back on their word" they just sold it off and can blame goldman sachs for changing the fund.
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Re: Goldman Sachs acquired AAAU

Post by Kbg » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:49 pm

I would like to LOUDLY AND OBNOXIOUSLY say what I have said repeatedly...these funds are all structured the same with a gimmick here or there thrown in to appeal to goldbugs.

Just buy the cheapest one exactly like you do a stock index fund.
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