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NY Gold suspicions & rumors

Postby dualstow » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:01 pm

Reminds me of a not-very-old thread:

The Fed Has 6,200 Tons of Gold in a Manhattan Basement—Or Does It?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fed-ha ... 1502382644

If anyyone has a non-paywalled source, please link...
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Re: NY Gold suspicions & rumors

Postby whatchamacallit » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:53 am

http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/201 ... s-it0.html

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Didn't see any meat. Just theories from usual suspects.
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Re: NY Gold suspicions & rumors

Postby technovelist » Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:03 pm

Fortunately we can trust the Fed and any other government agencies not to lie to us!
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Re: NY Gold suspicions & rumors

Postby farjean2 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:21 pm

I think Ron Paul was trying to see the gold in Fort Knox or whatever but could never manage to make it happen.

So I have to ask the question - if you are claiming to have 6,200 tons of gold somewhere and won't let anybody see it an official capacity from the U.S. government what other explanation can there be for that beside that you are a lying snake in the grass?
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Re: NY Gold suspicions & rumors

Postby barrett » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:00 pm

What I always wonder about when the discussion of the 6,200 tons of gold comes up is if we put a dollar amount on that gold, then what? At $1,300 per ounce that gold is worth roughly 257 billion dollars. For perspective, the US is paying about that much each year servicing its debt. See a link (from a perfunctory search) here:

https://www.thebalance.com/interest-on- ... bt-4119024

Outstanding debt on US savings bonds is about 166 billion. The 257 billion is about a quarter of what we owe just to China. Ditto for Japan.

Not that any of these figures are supposed to mean anything by themselves. I'm just throwing around numbers. I guess it just strikes me that the US gold reserves are not worth all that much in the grand scheme of things.
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Re: NY Gold suspicions & rumors

Postby technovelist » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:19 pm

barrett wrote:What I always wonder about when the discussion of the 6,200 tons of gold comes up is if we put a dollar amount on that gold, then what? At $1,300 per ounce that gold is worth roughly 257 billion dollars. For perspective, the US is paying about that much each year servicing its debt. See a link (from a perfunctory search) here:

https://www.thebalance.com/interest-on- ... bt-4119024

Outstanding debt on US savings bonds is about 166 billion. The 257 billion is about a quarter of what we owe just to China. Ditto for Japan.

Not that any of these figures are supposed to mean anything by themselves. I'm just throwing around numbers. I guess it just strikes me that the US gold reserves are not worth all that much in the grand scheme of things.


That is easy to fix... if the gold is actually there.
Just revalue the gold at whatever price would pay off all the outstanding Treasury debt, then use it for that purpose.
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Re: NY Gold suspicions & rumors

Postby dualstow » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:19 pm

farjean2 wrote:I think Ron Paul was trying to see the gold in Fort Knox or whatever but could never manage to make it happen.

So I have to ask the question - if you are claiming to have 6,200 tons of gold somewhere and won't let anybody see it an official capacity from the U.S. government what other explanation can there be for that beside that you are a lying snake in the grass?


I wouldn't let Ron Paul see my gold either.
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Re: NY Gold suspicions & rumors

Postby Desert » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:26 pm

dualstow wrote:
farjean2 wrote:I think Ron Paul was trying to see the gold in Fort Knox or whatever but could never manage to make it happen.

So I have to ask the question - if you are claiming to have 6,200 tons of gold somewhere and won't let anybody see it an official capacity from the U.S. government what other explanation can there be for that beside that you are a lying snake in the grass?


I wouldn't let Ron Paul see my gold either.


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