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Ally Bank No Penalty CD

Post by sophie » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:23 am

It's a CD...no, it's a savings account...or is it a floor wax!

https://www.ally.com/bank/no-penalty-cd/

Cliff Notes version: For a minimum balance of $25,000, you can now open a new savings-ish account with Ally yielding 1.50%. It is technically an 11 month CD with autorollover and with no early withdrawal fees. Your money is locked into the account for 6 days.

It looks like the only difference between that and a regular savings account with Ally is that you can't tie it to the checking account for overdraft transfers. For comparison, the one year T bill is 1.22%.

Looks interesting, but I wonder why they didn't just introduce tiered interest rates into their savings accounts. Why the added complexity? This has also left me wondering if I shouldn't just go the T bill route, which has only a slightly lower interest rate after tax.

EDIT: I found some info that in order to withdraw money you have to close the CD and wait two days for the money to transfer out. No partial withdrawals. So it's more like selling a CD or T bill than a savings account....
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Re: Ally Bank No Penalty CD

Post by farjean2 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:42 pm

These low interest rates have been going on for so long now that I'm beginning to question my memories about the past. Seems to me that when I opened my Fidelity online checking account when they first offered it, they were offering around 5% on a checking account balance of something like 5-10k? Or maybe even no required minimum balance at all if memory serves me right.

Can anybody help me about whether I'm dealing with false memories of the good old days or not?
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Re: Ally Bank No Penalty CD

Post by ochotona » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:20 pm

In 1983 I got a 12-month CD offering about 13% APR, at an S&L in the Sherman Oaks (California) Galleria where they filmed "Terminator 2". Imperial Savings and Loan. Long since gone, of course. Oh, the good old days.
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Re: Ally Bank No Penalty CD

Post by eufo » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:49 pm

ochotona wrote:In 1983 I got a 12-month CD offering about 13% APR, at an S&L in the Sherman Oaks (California) Galleria where they filmed "Terminator 2". Imperial Savings and Loan. Long since gone, of course. Oh, the good old days.
Hasta la vista, baby!

Wow, 13%! *heavy sigh*
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Re: Ally Bank No Penalty CD

Post by buddtholomew » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:24 pm

ochotona wrote:In 1983 I got a 12-month CD offering about 13% APR, at an S&L in the Sherman Oaks (California) Galleria where they filmed "Terminator 2". Imperial Savings and Loan. Long since gone, of course. Oh, the good old days.
shut up :o
Grew up in the San Fernando Valley on Louise (south side of Ventura Blvd) and attended UCLA.
Sherman Oaks Galleria was the shiznit back in the day.
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Re: Ally Bank No Penalty CD

Post by ochotona » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:21 pm

All banks pass this year's stress tests, BUT...

Among a couple of close calls, Morgan Stanley's (NYSE:MS) supplementary leverage ratio fell to as low as 3.8% under the severely adverse scenario - not too far from the 3% minimum. Ally Financial's (NYSE:ALLY) CET 1 ratio fell to as low as 6.5% vs. the 4.5% minimum.


https://seekingalpha.com/news/3275165-b ... ress-tests

Ally used to be GMAC, and is heavily auto loan dependent... need I say more. I watch it like a hawk, but I have lots of money there, but all under the FDIC limit.
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Post by Cortopassi » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:12 pm

farjean2 wrote:These low interest rates have been going on for so long now that I'm beginning to question my memories about the past. Seems to me that when I opened my Fidelity online checking account when they first offered it, they were offering around 5% on a checking account balance of something like 5-10k? Or maybe even no required minimum balance at all if memory serves me right.

Can anybody help me about whether I'm dealing with false memories of the good old days or not?
Absolutely back in the ~2000 years. I would do the 0% for 12 months cash advance on a new/existing credit card, take the cash and put it in a money market. Did it 3 times. Easy, free $1000 every time for a 20k advance.

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Re: Ally Bank No Penalty CD

Post by ochotona » Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:14 am

Ally just raised it's online savings rate to 1.15%.
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Re: Ally Bank No Penalty CD

Post by jhogue » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:09 am

1 year Treasury: 1.27% 6/30/2017 Fidelity min. $1,000
1 year CD: 1.40% 6/30/2017 synchrony min. $2,000
Current I-bond rate: 1.96% 5/01/2017 Treasury Direct min. $ 25
Previous I-bond rate: 2.76% 5/01/2017 Treasury Direct min. $ 25

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Re: Ally Bank No Penalty CD

Post by ppnewbie » Mon May 20, 2019 4:12 pm

sophie wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:23 am
It's a CD...no, it's a savings account...or is it a floor wax!

https://www.ally.com/bank/no-penalty-cd/

Cliff Notes version: For a minimum balance of $25,000, you can now open a new savings-ish account with Ally yielding 1.50%. It is technically an 11 month CD with autorollover and with no early withdrawal fees. Your money is locked into the account for 6 days.

It looks like the only difference between that and a regular savings account with Ally is that you can't tie it to the checking account for overdraft transfers. For comparison, the one year T bill is 1.22%.

Looks interesting, but I wonder why they didn't just introduce tiered interest rates into their savings accounts. Why the added complexity? This has also left me wondering if I shouldn't just go the T bill route, which has only a slightly lower interest rate after tax.

EDIT: I found some info that in order to withdraw money you have to close the CD and wait two days for the money to transfer out. No partial withdrawals. So it's more like selling a CD or T bill than a savings account....
Anyone looked at www.marcus.com - It's Goldman Sach's new attempt to provide banking services for the rest of us. Savings account is 2.25%, CD's are 2.7%. There is definitely major counter party risk with an online account and Goldman playing with your money. But if your comfortable with that, it's a pretty impressive offer. Personally, I have not made up my mind if I am willing to take the risk.
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Re: Ally Bank No Penalty CD

Post by jhogue » Mon May 20, 2019 5:04 pm

A 1 year T-bill at Fidelity brokerage was 2.34% today. A 6 month T bill was 2.39%. Minimum purchase of $1,000. T-bills are also free of state and local taxes. CDs are not.
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Re: Ally Bank No Penalty CD

Post by ppnewbie » Wed May 22, 2019 4:23 pm

Goldman Sachs - marcus.com 2.25% savings ($1,000 minimum), 2.35% penalty free CD, 2.7% 1 year CD.
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