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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... se-anymore

I couldn't really make much sense of this.
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It tells me that treasuries are becoming more risky than corporates of the same duration.
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This sounds like the very defintion of Tight Money which is why I've been raising cash.
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MachineGhost wrote: This sounds like the very defintion of Tight Money which is why I've been raising cash.
Raising cash? Any idea how much of your portfolio is in cash right now percentage-wise?
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Greg wrote: Raising cash? Any idea how much of your portfolio is in cash right now percentage-wise?
About 63%, up about 13%.
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up 13% from where? 50%?

(50 + 13 = 63)
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Yep!
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Wow. that's a lot of dry powder as Craig would put it. You are quite the pessimist hah. :)
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Greg wrote: Wow. that's a lot of dry powder as Craig would put it. You are quite the pessimist hah. :)
More like I couldn't find any value!  Stocks -- nope.  Bonds -- risky.  Gold -- downtrend.  At least I nibbled.

I do think we're going to look back at this losing year as "Tight Money"...  even if its more psychological than fact.  But since when did facts ever move the market???
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MachineGhost wrote:
Greg wrote: Wow. that's a lot of dry powder as Craig would put it. You are quite the pessimist hah. :)
More like I couldn't find any value!  Stocks -- nope.  Bonds -- risky.  Gold -- downtrend.  At least I nibbled.

I do think we're going to look back at this losing year as "Tight Money"...  even if its more psychological than fact.  But since when did facts ever move the market???
There's probably value in the energy sector if you were feeling crazy brave.
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