Treasury Bond Buying Tutorial

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Re: Treasury Bond Buying Tutorial

Post by dualstow » Wed May 23, 2012 10:17 am

1NV3ST0R wrote: Anyone know for Fidelity if you were to purchase 10 $1000 face value 30 year bonds and then want to sell, can you sell just 5 of those original 10 or do you have to sell all 10?
Although I've never sold any, I would think you could sell 5. After all, (unlike Vanguard) Fidelity does let one buy fewer than 10.
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Re: Treasury Bond Buying Tutorial

Post by hoost » Wed May 23, 2012 10:19 am

Vanguard also let's you buy fewer than 10.  I think the price goes up slightly though.  I'm not sure how their prices/internal markups are relative to Fidelity, I bought six bonds a couple months ago with no issues.
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Post by Greg » Wed May 23, 2012 10:41 am

I'll have to call Fidelity and see what they say. Perhaps it is like tax lots with ETFs/Stocks where you can pick and choose how much of each lot to sell.
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Re: Treasury Bond Buying Tutorial

Post by foglifter » Wed May 23, 2012 11:58 am

1NV3ST0R wrote: Anyone know for Fidelity if you were to purchase 10 $1000 face value 30 year bonds and then want to sell, can you sell just 5 of those original 10 or do you have to sell all 10?
I just checked - yes, you can sell even 1 bond.
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Re: Treasury Bond Buying Tutorial

Post by Greg » Wed May 23, 2012 12:55 pm

Thanks foglifter. That keeps me from having to talk to people. I can now resume my hermit lifestyle.
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Post by moda0306 » Wed May 23, 2012 12:57 pm

1NV3ST0R,

Who's that a picture of?
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Re: Treasury Bond Buying Tutorial

Post by Greg » Wed May 23, 2012 1:05 pm

moda,

That's a picture of Frédéric Bastiat. Really cool 19th century french dude who helped to develop the economic term of "opportunity cost". He's got a really good little book called "The Law" which I really liked. I initially heard about him from a Ron Paul debate where the moderator asked him if he could recommend one book to read what would it be.

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Moda, I could ask the same question about what your picture is of.
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I am a big Bastiat fan myself.  Not so much a fan of Matthew Lesko though.
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Re: Treasury Bond Buying Tutorial

Post by moda0306 » Wed May 23, 2012 1:18 pm

1NV3ST0R,

It's a picture of that ridiculous guy who schemes government programs to get people money and writes books about it.  I tend to scheme the tax code for tax avoidance/deferral strategies (legal, of course).
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Re: Treasury Bond Buying Tutorial

Post by Greg » Wed May 23, 2012 1:26 pm

I wouldn't say to "scheme the tax code", just "intelligently utilizing resources for maximum monetary gain". It's obviously much easier to say that way. (sarcasm ensues)
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Re: Treasury Bond Buying Tutorial

Post by moda0306 » Wed May 23, 2012 1:29 pm

I use "scheme" around people I know won't use it against me.  People here hate taxes enough that it earns me more respect than scorn.
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Re: Treasury Bond Buying Tutorial

Post by Greg » Wed May 23, 2012 2:31 pm

Gotcha. Yay respect.

On the non-tangent of this particular thread, I'll probably be purchasing 30 year bonds in a taxable account sometime this week. I won't have my Roth IRA until July and when I get it I'll just add more 30 year bonds into there as well up to the maximum.
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