Demographics and the Stock Market
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:01 am
I am posting this comment from the Gold section here as a new topic because it's more about stocks than gold.
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My belief is that stock market trends tend to track demographic trends.
When an economy is seeing a rise in the proportion of its population entering their peak earning and consumption years (ages 35-55), it's very good for stocks. When those same groups start leaving the high production/high consumption demographic bands, stock markets start to suffer along with the underlying economy.
The first of the Baby Boomers began entering their peak earning and consumption years around 1982, which coincides almost exactly with the start of the historic 1982-2000 secular bull market for stocks. Around 2001, the oldest Baby Boomers began exiting their peak earning and consumption years, which coincides almost exactly with the start of the current secular bear market for stocks.
The trouble with these demographics-driven market trends is that they tend to build on themselves as the demographic wave grows larger. In the case of the Baby Boomers, they are still exiting their peak earning and consumption years, so it will be several more years before the beginning of the effects of the Baby Boomers exiting the workforce are felt. The next shoe to drop in that process was the first of the Baby Boomers reaching age 65, which started in 2011, and will continue until the mid-2020s.
If Japan is any guide (they are about a decade ahead of us with their demographics), it will be a LONG time before the U.S. stock market does much more than trade in a range. We've been trading in a range now for about 16 years, which is probably a heck of a lot longer than many investors were imagining back in 2000, but these things can sometimes go on for WAY longer than people think they will. Japan has been trading in a range WAY below the all time highs in that market for about 27 years now. I wonder what a Japanese investor who was told that stocks always go up if given enough time must think. 27 years and nowhere near the all time highs. Not even within 50% of the all time high. The Japanese stock market would need to double and then gain another 20-30% just to get back to the 1989 all time high.
These demographic factors can also create feedback loops that aggravate the problem as well. In Japan, I get the impression that one of the reasons that marriage and having children has fallen out of favor is that it's so much harder to get a career started and to truly feel optimistic about the future with the stiff economic headwinds that never seem to stop blowing there. With people having fewer children, the demographic problems will only get worse, and I can easily see the Japanese secular bear market continuing for another 20-30 years.
As I recall, during and in the wake of World War I as France realized it had lost a large chunk of an entire generation, its stock market took a dive and it took over 40 years for it to regain its footing and reach previous highs.
They never talk any of that stuff in Kiplinger's and Forbes. Who would buy a magazine that said stuff like that?
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My belief is that stock market trends tend to track demographic trends.
When an economy is seeing a rise in the proportion of its population entering their peak earning and consumption years (ages 35-55), it's very good for stocks. When those same groups start leaving the high production/high consumption demographic bands, stock markets start to suffer along with the underlying economy.
The first of the Baby Boomers began entering their peak earning and consumption years around 1982, which coincides almost exactly with the start of the historic 1982-2000 secular bull market for stocks. Around 2001, the oldest Baby Boomers began exiting their peak earning and consumption years, which coincides almost exactly with the start of the current secular bear market for stocks.
The trouble with these demographics-driven market trends is that they tend to build on themselves as the demographic wave grows larger. In the case of the Baby Boomers, they are still exiting their peak earning and consumption years, so it will be several more years before the beginning of the effects of the Baby Boomers exiting the workforce are felt. The next shoe to drop in that process was the first of the Baby Boomers reaching age 65, which started in 2011, and will continue until the mid-2020s.
If Japan is any guide (they are about a decade ahead of us with their demographics), it will be a LONG time before the U.S. stock market does much more than trade in a range. We've been trading in a range now for about 16 years, which is probably a heck of a lot longer than many investors were imagining back in 2000, but these things can sometimes go on for WAY longer than people think they will. Japan has been trading in a range WAY below the all time highs in that market for about 27 years now. I wonder what a Japanese investor who was told that stocks always go up if given enough time must think. 27 years and nowhere near the all time highs. Not even within 50% of the all time high. The Japanese stock market would need to double and then gain another 20-30% just to get back to the 1989 all time high.
These demographic factors can also create feedback loops that aggravate the problem as well. In Japan, I get the impression that one of the reasons that marriage and having children has fallen out of favor is that it's so much harder to get a career started and to truly feel optimistic about the future with the stiff economic headwinds that never seem to stop blowing there. With people having fewer children, the demographic problems will only get worse, and I can easily see the Japanese secular bear market continuing for another 20-30 years.
As I recall, during and in the wake of World War I as France realized it had lost a large chunk of an entire generation, its stock market took a dive and it took over 40 years for it to regain its footing and reach previous highs.
They never talk any of that stuff in Kiplinger's and Forbes. Who would buy a magazine that said stuff like that?