jalanlong wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:45 pm
I am not sure you are going to get a logical answer out of Vinnie. I am still confused by his thread a few weeks ago about how he calls himself an "extreme fiscal conservative" but yet his two chosen candidates in the last Presidential election were Amy Klobuchar and Tulsi Gabbard, both of whom pretty much tow the Democratic Party line on Universal Health Care, Free College etc. Conservative can mean different things to different people but I can't imagine many people who would describe their economic policies as conservative.
I don't think you are as much accusing me of being illogical but are, instead, accusing me of being inconsistent or contradictory in that you believe my behavior is not meeting my stated values.
I tried to explain this to you but obviously I did not give you a successful explanation for what you perceive to be inconsistent / contradictory behavior on my part. I will try again here.
Did I use the exact phrase "extreme fiscal conservative"? If so, I was not saying that I'm a "conservative" in general political terms but that in fiscal matters I'm going to be in favor of doing whatever is necessary to have the least amount of deficit (and, even hopefully, a surplus) for each fiscal year.
I believe I stated that no party comes closes to that. Therefore, no party gets credit from me and my vote based upon that alone.
I believe that your logic in accusing me of being in being inconsistent / contradictory is as follows:
1) I stated I am extreme on fiscal matters.
2) The Republicans hold themselves out to be to be more fiscally responsible than the Democrats.
3) Therefore I should vote for the Republicans
Several things missing from the premises behind your logic.
I stated that both parties are so far from where I am on fiscal matters that no party (i.e., the Republicans) are going to get my vote based upon their purported stance on fiscal matters.
You seen to believe that the Republicans are the more fiscally responsible party.
That is what they attempt to convey.
However, let's look at their behaviors in this area.
In the last 30 years or so of presidential administrations which party's administrations have been more fiscally reckless?
Was it fiscally responsible for Obama's predecessor to cut taxes and start an unnecessary extremely expensive war?
Was it fiscally responsible for Obama's successor to also cut taxes?
Finally, I'd also stated that being fiscally responsible was not my only criteria. I looked at the whole person.
For many people they see being President as running around giving speeches (e.g., Bernie Sanders).
I see being President as being a real job.
Therefore I want someone who is not going to do everything the way I would want them to be done but who is, instead, qualified to be President.
That entails many things among them being intelligent, a diligent worker, using information in making decisions, putting the country first before his or her own interests, and a number of other qualifications.
Does that make it any more clearer to you why I had my preferences?