My definitive statement is that my default position on anything the US government says about foreign wars is that it is probably a lie unless they can provide a lot of evidence to back up what they are saying. They don't deserve the presumption of truth at this point, after all the lies they have put out over the decades. So, take everything they say with a grain of salt unless they can back it up with a lot of evidence. I've done my own digging on the Ukraine situation, and I haven't found that they can back up what they are saying with a lot of evidence. Now, I freely admit that I could be wrong. All my digging has been done from behind my computer screen. I haven't been digging out actual physical evidence in the field in Ukraine, but then again neither has anybody else who is commenting in this forum. My own research from behind my computer screen leads me to believe that NATO is much more at fault in this war than Russia is.vnatale wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:45 pmAre you taking the position that anything the government says to us regarding a war is always a lie? Anything it says to us regarding the military? Anything it says about anything?
I'm truly trying to get a definitive statement from you regarding what you do trust the government for and what you do not trust it for.
And when we bring up the Cuba missile crisis everybody freely admits they would have no problem with the US attacking Cuba if Russia wouldn't stand down with their missiles. But somehow it's different when we're over meddling in Ukraine. And Ukraine is even worse, because they were mistreating their Russian-speaking citizens also. Imagine there was a conclave of American emigres living in Cuba, being mistreated by the Cuban government, and then Russia refuses to remove their missiles. How much more justification would people think the US had to attack Cuba under those conditions?