Xan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:57 am
why didn't he go and make his case to the UN? He personally could have laid out a case of the US interfering in the coup, of Russian-majority regions wanting to redraw the borders, etc.
I'm not sure how many time the Russians went to the UN but obviously it's not a path to resolution. The UN immediately recognized the coup government and condemned the Crimea vote to join Russia, declaring that Crimea belonged to Ukraine/Kiev (in spite of less than 4% of the population even speaking Ukrainian as a first language).
Something tells me the UN isn't a useful arbiter of justice when justice is in opposition to US interests.
The Reuters article is informative and surprisingly balanced on the subject. Below the link are some excerpts. Interested parties should read it. The US was hand-picking the new government and discussed getting the UN to sign off before the Russian could "torpedo it".
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... 1G20140207
The leaked conversation appeared certain to embarrass the United States and seemed designed to bolster charges - from Russia, among others - that the Ukrainian opposition is being manipulated by Washington, which President Barack Obama’s administration strenuously disputes.
U.S. accusations that Russia helped publicize the taped conversation also threatened Washington’s already tense relationship with Moscow.
The audio clip, which was posted on Tuesday but gained wide circulation on Thursday, appears to show the official, Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, weighing in on the make-up of the next Ukrainian government.
Nuland is heard telling U.S. Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt that she doesn’t think Vitaly Klitschko, the boxer-turned-politician who is a main opposition leader, should be in a new government.
“So I don’t think Klitsch (Klitschko) should go into the government,” she said in the recording, which appeared to describe events that occurred in late January. “I don’t think it’s necessary. I don’t think it’s a good idea.”
Separately on Thursday, a senior Kremlin aide accused the United States of arming Ukrainian “rebels” and warned Russia could intervene to maintain the security of its neighbor.
U.S. officials, while declining to confirm the recording’s contents, did not dispute its authenticity.
“I did not say it was not authentic,” State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said at a news briefing.
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In the first audio, Nuland and Pyatt are heard discussing strategies to work with the three main opposition figures: Klitschko, Arseny Yatseniuk, former Ukrainian economy minister, and Oleh Tyahnybok, the far-right nationalist opposition leader.
Nuland referred to getting the United Nations involved in a political solution in Kiev.
“So that would be great, I think, to help glue this thing and have the U.N. help glue it and you know ... fuck the EU,” she said in the recording, which was accompanied by still pictures of people mentioned in the call.
Pyatt responded: “Exactly. And I think we’ve got to do something to make it stick together because you can be pretty sure that if it does start to gain altitude, the Russians will be working behind the scenes to try to torpedo it.”