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InsuranceGuy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:03 pm

vnatale wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:52 pm Of course I really understand what free speech means.

What you really missed was that I was writing the ideal, as if I had full power to mandate all. But it's understandable you missed that because my writing is generally written in such a serious and literal vein.

However, you are not acknowledging that there is not complete free speech in our country. I challenge you to go anywhere public within ear shot of others or on the radio and continually repeat George Carlin's famous seven words.

Ask Howard Stern about the realities of free speech in our country.

Clear Channel nixes Howard Stern
Faced with a $495,000 FCC fine, the radio chain drops Stern show from six stations.
April 8, 2004: 5:48 PM EDT

https://money.cnn.com/2004/04/08/news/f ... 20stations.

You can say, "Well that is different." Maybe so. But if there can be laws against seven words then there can also be laws against speech attempting to either minimize or perpetuate crimes against humanity.

None of our liberties are without some limits thanks to politicians and judges.

Also thanks to reason and common sense. An example being limitation of speech that calls for immediate violence.

vnatale wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:52 pm
Of course I really understand what free speech means.

What you really missed was that I was writing the ideal, as if I had full power to mandate all. But it's understandable you missed that because my writing is generally written in such a serious and literal vein.

My mistake. I acknowledge that you are not in favor of free speech.

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InsuranceGuy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:33 pm

glennds wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:13 pm

InsuranceGuy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:03 pm None of our liberties are without some limits thanks to politicians and judges.

Also thanks to reason and common sense. An example being limitation of speech that calls for immediate violence.

I don't disagree there shouldn't be speech limits to protect other's liberty such as calling for violence or defamation.

I should have been more clear that these liberties including speech continue to be eroded by politicians and judges to "protect" us from ourselves.

I think we're in agreement. Rights should not be unlimited, but eroding them should not happen lightly either. It's a balancing act to be sure.

Honestly, I often think if more of us (all of us?) conducted ourselves more responsibly and did not abuse our rights, they might not be as vulnerable to erosion. However I also recognize that promoting accountability of self is not a popular idea in our age of entitlement.

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Republicans usually revere the free market. Now, they’re cursing it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... ursing-it/

Opinion by
Max Boot
Columnist
Jan. 12, 2021 at 2:30 p.m. EST
You have to savor the irony: Republicans who normally extol the virtues of the free market are now cursing it. That’s because they are feeling the wrath of corporate America for having subverted U.S. democracy and instigated an insurrection.

Simon & Schuster decided to cancel a book by Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.), leading him to rage against the “woke mob” in ways that he has never done against the MAGA mob that invaded the U.S. Capitol. He even called the publisher’s move a “direct assault on the First Amendment,” as though every American has a constitutional right to be published by Simon & Schuster. Other major companies have said they won’t donate to the Sedition Caucus — the 147 congressional Republicans who voted not to certify the presidential election results. The financial hit could hurt GOP chances of retaking Congress in 2022.

President Trump is said to be “gutted” because the Professional Golfers’ Association of America voted to take the 2022 PGA Championship away from one of his golf courses. If only he could get a mulligan for his attacks against U.S. democracy.



That these right-wingers are able to protest Twitter’s decision on Twitter refutes their silly scaremongering about the end of free speech. Indeed, the fact that Twitter banned the president of the United States shows that freedom of speech is very much alive in America. Any media organization in China or Russia that tried to shut down Xi Jinping or Vladimir Putin’s lies would not be in business for long — and its owners would not be at liberty either.


A better solution is to introduce more transparency and accountability into social media companies’ decisions to ban certain users — without risking heavy-handed government censorship. It’s a tough balancing act, but it can be done. Mark MacCarthy of the Brookings Institution suggests the creation of an independent industry arbitration panel that could oversee social media companies’ implementation of their own standards to make sure they are being fair and consistent. This would provide a way to appeal decisions by Twitter’s Jack Dorsey or Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg without forcing the government to rule on who should be allowed to say what.

But simply because social media companies need to be more transparent in their decisions doesn’t mean that they were wrong to ban Trump and some of his most deranged followers. If the companies had acted earlier — while Trump was spreading lies about election fraud — the Capitol might never have been attacked.

Max Boot is not a republican, no matter what he might say. He’s a center neocon.

I Shrugged wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:52 am
Max Boot is not a republican, no matter what he might say. He’s a center neocon.

Duly noted.

Any response to the thoughts he expresses. His words?

vnatale wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:22 am

I Shrugged wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:52 am Max Boot is not a republican, no matter what he might say. He’s a center neocon.

Duly noted.

Any response to the thoughts he expresses. His words?

I'm going to apply the Vinny standard. Max Boot is discredited in my mind so I'm not going to evaluate what he might say.

I Shrugged wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:40 am

vnatale wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:22 am

I Shrugged wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:52 am
Max Boot is not a republican, no matter what he might say. He’s a center neocon.

Duly noted.

Any response to the thoughts he expresses. His words?

I'm going to apply the Vinny standard. Max Boot is discredited in my mind so I'm not going to evaluate what he might say.

Good one. I was wondering if you'd reply that way.

Except the "Vinny standard" is directed towards certain wacky conspiracy theories that are not infrequently brought here. Plus, brought from sources that are either fringe or obviously biased or both.

Still waiting for anyone to tell me how large that antifa mob was in New York City on Sunday.

Still waiting for anyone to tell me how large that antifa mob was in New York City on Sunday.

Dunno

I was going to create a thread, Where Tech Meets Politics, to make up for that post of Cortopassi’s that was deleted, but it looks like this thread serves that purpose just fine.

https://www.distractify.com/p/parler-data-dump

A Hacker Leaked Every Single Post From Parler, and It Isn’t Pretty

I thought the principle just established was that hacked material was considered off-limits for journalistic investigation. The Biden laptop was much less "hacked" than all this was.

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InsuranceGuy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:19 pm Even Salon sees the hypocrisy of blaming Parler for the capitol incident: https://www.salon.com/2021/01/16/despit ... hdogs-say/
... {rest of post is directly above^^}

Yes! It was only very recently that Zuckerberg caved and started shutting down Holocaust denial. I understand that these platforms are going to be criticized whether they go all free speech or try to moderate, but there are clear double standards here with with regard to Parler. I hope someone like Peter Thiel swoops in and saves Parler.

Simonjester wrote: https://dailytorch.com/2021/01/left-cal ... ervatives/

army of citizens to monitor domestic terrorists,

It's LITERALLY out of the NAZI/Communist playbook, done over and over and over.

freedom loving patriotic Americans need to get as many states to secede as possible. Then all the "domestic terrorists" can move there and have normal lives and not bother the communists anymore.

Everyone will be happier.

Simonjester wrote: https://www.americanthinker.com/article ... rward.html

there is frightful talk of Truth and Reconciliation Commissions, blacklists, purges, cleansing, re-education camps, deradicalization, and deprogramming — all from the mouths of Democrats. That they are so emboldened to actually articulate these noxious ideas out loud — the very tactics employed by the worst despots and most notorious political movements in history — should chill everyone's blood.

People who seize power through fraud are not the type with good intentions.

SomeDude wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:39 am ...freedom loving patriotic Americans need to get as many states to secede as possible. Then all the "domestic terrorists" can move there and have normal lives and not bother the communists anymore.

Everyone will be happier.

I think sedition is still a punishable crime.

Simonjester wrote: https://patriotdailypress.com/2021/01/2 ... ice-state/
https://patriotdailypress.org/2021/01/2 ... the-truth/

more censorship news..

Sarcasm, on the other hand, merely alluding to sedition, is still legal.

https://trends.google.com/trends/yis/2020/US/

I find it hard to believe orange man did not make top ten people searched in 2020.

Rewriting history.

whatchamacallit wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:12 pm https://trends.google.com/trends/yis/2020/US/

I find it hard to believe orange man did not make top ten people searched in 2020.

Rewriting history.

His name is Orangemanbad.