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Post by dualstow » Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:44 pm

Maddy wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:15 pm
I'd predict that this is only the beginning, with [or] without Donald Trump.
No doubt.
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Re: Breaking News, Politics version

Post by SomeDude » Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:49 pm

Xan wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:27 pm
That doesn't say that the slates of electors even exist. It just says what the strategy of the die-hards is. Please make sure you're reading carefully!
https://www.wsj.com/articles/republican ... 1609164000

That's the Wall Street Journal.

https://www.vox.com/22173990/electoral- ... hen-miller

That's Vox. Quote "And Trump’s chosen electors did indeed meet in states including Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, and Michigan to cast their votes for Trump"

Jesus Christ I'm wasting all my political posts on this. This is the last one. I literally only had to google "alternate electors" and this was the 2nd and 3rd.

You can say that the competing electors were not certified by their secretary's of state, but competing sets of electors for certain states came in.

Bottom line......Pence counted the votes based on fraud, and congress certified them.....fallout is inevitable. Surely they know that, and are looking forward to the fight.
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Re: Breaking News, Politics version

Post by tomfoolery » Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:54 pm

vnatale wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:03 am

Also, if a black person had been so proudly sitting in Nancy Pelosi's chair do you think he would NOT have been arrested as the actual guy who did that has not been arrested and who is bragging about sitting in that chair and not being arrested?
Absolutely a black rioter would have been arrested immediately. Our prisons are 95% black. This white man is proving his white privilege by blatantly showing off how he will never be arrested. And he won’t be. While people doing the same crime get away with it most of the time. It’s how our criminal justice system works. Racism.
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Re: Breaking News, Politics version

Post by Xan » Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:08 pm

SomeDude wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:49 pm
Xan wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:27 pm
That doesn't say that the slates of electors even exist. It just says what the strategy of the die-hards is. Please make sure you're reading carefully!
https://www.wsj.com/articles/republican ... 1609164000

That's the Wall Street Journal.

https://www.vox.com/22173990/electoral- ... hen-miller

That's Vox. Quote "And Trump’s chosen electors did indeed meet in states including Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, and Michigan to cast their votes for Trump"

Jesus Christ I'm wasting all my political posts on this. This is the last one. I literally only had to google "alternate electors" and this was the 2nd and 3rd.

You can say that the competing electors were not certified by their secretary's of state, but competing sets of electors for certain states came in.

Bottom line......Pence counted the votes based on fraud, and congress certified them.....fallout is inevitable. Surely they know that, and are looking forward to the fight.
"Trump's Chosen Electors"? You don't get to choose your own electors. They weren't just not certified by the secretary of state, they weren't certified by anybody. Just because you claim to be an elector doesn't make you one.
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Re: Breaking News, Politics version

Post by SomeDude » Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:23 pm

Xan wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:08 pm
SomeDude wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:49 pm
Xan wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:27 pm
That doesn't say that the slates of electors even exist. It just says what the strategy of the die-hards is. Please make sure you're reading carefully!
https://www.wsj.com/articles/republican ... 1609164000

That's the Wall Street Journal.

https://www.vox.com/22173990/electoral- ... hen-miller

That's Vox. Quote "And Trump’s chosen electors did indeed meet in states including Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, and Michigan to cast their votes for Trump"

Jesus Christ I'm wasting all my political posts on this. This is the last one. I literally only had to google "alternate electors" and this was the 2nd and 3rd.

You can say that the competing electors were not certified by their secretary's of state, but competing sets of electors for certain states came in.

Bottom line......Pence counted the votes based on fraud, and congress certified them.....fallout is inevitable. Surely they know that, and are looking forward to the fight.
"Trump's Chosen Electors"? You don't get to choose your own electors. They weren't just not certified by the secretary of state, they weren't certified by anybody. Just because you claim to be an elector doesn't make you one.
You are falling for Vox's sophistry. Media outlets use certain words or phrases to manipulate the views of readers. They do it because it works well with a lot of people. It's like when they call the BLM rioters "protestors" then calling the election-fraud protestors "rioters"
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Re: Breaking News, Politics version

Post by Xan » Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:01 pm

SomeDude wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:23 pm
Xan wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:08 pm
SomeDude wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:49 pm
Xan wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:27 pm
That doesn't say that the slates of electors even exist. It just says what the strategy of the die-hards is. Please make sure you're reading carefully!
https://www.wsj.com/articles/republican ... 1609164000

That's the Wall Street Journal.

https://www.vox.com/22173990/electoral- ... hen-miller

That's Vox. Quote "And Trump’s chosen electors did indeed meet in states including Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, and Michigan to cast their votes for Trump"

Jesus Christ I'm wasting all my political posts on this. This is the last one. I literally only had to google "alternate electors" and this was the 2nd and 3rd.

You can say that the competing electors were not certified by their secretary's of state, but competing sets of electors for certain states came in.

Bottom line......Pence counted the votes based on fraud, and congress certified them.....fallout is inevitable. Surely they know that, and are looking forward to the fight.
"Trump's Chosen Electors"? You don't get to choose your own electors. They weren't just not certified by the secretary of state, they weren't certified by anybody. Just because you claim to be an elector doesn't make you one.
You are falling for Vox's sophistry. Media outlets use certain words or phrases to manipulate the views of readers. They do it because it works well with a lot of people. It's like when they call the BLM rioters "protestors" then calling the election-fraud protestors "rioters"
It isn't sophistry. Electors are sent by their states. If you're not sent by the state government then you're not an elector.
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Re: Breaking News, Politics version

Post by Maddy » Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:37 pm

Virtually ALL of the widely-followed conservative voices have been disappeared from Twitter. The last purge occurred just a couple of hours ago, which took down another huge swath. Android and Apple users are unable to get access to alternative conservative sites. For all practical purposes, the internet has gone mostly dark for one side of the political divide.

Who would have thought this could happen in America? The husband of a friend, who resides in Germany, expressed astonishment this evening at the complacency of the American public. He said that what's happening here is shudderingly similar to the events of Germany 1930s.

The Left has declared war on the rest of the country. I do not expect this to end well.
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Re: Breaking News, Politics version

Post by dualstow » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:07 pm

🚸 I moved Vinny’s Parler log-in issues to a new thread
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Re: Breaking News, Politics version

Post by InsuranceGuy » Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:40 am

https://observer.com/2021/01/elon-musk- ... rump-riot/

Elon Musk Blames Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg For Capitol Riot

His message was clear: The shocking rampage on Wednesday was the culmination of years of political and ideological polarization fueled by social media platforms, primarily Facebook.
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Re: Breaking News, Politics version

Post by Maddy » Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:44 pm

It's being reported just now that Antifa has taken over the streets of New York City, replete with riot gear. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/13 ... t-video%2F
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Re: Breaking News, Politics version

Post by dualstow » Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:26 pm

Maddy wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:44 pm
It's being reported just now that Antifa has taken over the streets of New York City, replete with riot gear. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/13 ... t-video%2F
Eesh. We are beyond the point of no return, aren’t we. I am truly frightened for the crap that is coming our way.
Nothing on the front page of the New York Times so far. Why am I not surprised.
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Re: Breaking News, Politics version

Post by SomeDude » Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:40 pm

Maddy wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:44 pm
It's being reported just now that Antifa has taken over the streets of New York City, replete with riot gear. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/13 ... t-video%2F
This is impossible. Trump and all his cronies have been kicked off social media. Someone has to explain how they caused this. Lefties please help.
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