The etiology of TDS

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Re: The etiology of TDS

Post by Mountaineer » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:38 pm

Cortopassi wrote: ↑
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Tangentially related to TDS, are any of you kind of dreading the political comments that some of your family members or friends are bound to make at your Thanksgiving gatherings?

I can tell you anecdotally that at my large family gatherings (on both my side and my wife's), the only people that I hear occasionally blurt out a heated political comment at elevated volume are the ones with TDS who are bitching about Trump. Most everyone else seems to keep a more normal tone of voice and largely avoids discussing political topics.

Sample size of one, but... just saying.
Ohh, can of worms...!

Who's actually having Thanksgiving gatherings?

I'm actually looking forward to a quiet 4 person nuclear family Thanksgiving with no stressing about food and discussion topics!
You are having twice as large a gathering as we are. 🀣🀣🀣
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Re: The etiology of TDS

Post by vnatale » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:53 pm

Mountaineer wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:38 pm
Cortopassi wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:34 pm
Tortoise wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:19 pm
Tangentially related to TDS, are any of you kind of dreading the political comments that some of your family members or friends are bound to make at your Thanksgiving gatherings?

I can tell you anecdotally that at my large family gatherings (on both my side and my wife's), the only people that I hear occasionally blurt out a heated political comment at elevated volume are the ones with TDS who are bitching about Trump. Most everyone else seems to keep a more normal tone of voice and largely avoids discussing political topics.

Sample size of one, but... just saying.
Ohh, can of worms...!

Who's actually having Thanksgiving gatherings?

I'm actually looking forward to a quiet 4 person nuclear family Thanksgiving with no stressing about food and discussion topics!
You are having twice as large a gathering as we are. 🀣🀣🀣
And, YOURS will be TWICE mine! (Note: Not including 13 completely lovable animals!)

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Re: The etiology of TDS

Post by InsuranceGuy » Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:58 pm

Cortopassi wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:34 pm
Ohh, can of worms...!

Who's actually having Thanksgiving gatherings?

I'm actually looking forward to a quiet 4 person nuclear family Thanksgiving with no stressing about food and discussion topics!
13 people for ours, my 5 and 8 immediate family members. We have a mask requirement except during the meal, not willing to shut down life completely. It is crazy fewer have died from the virus than cancer or heart disease this year. I wish people were as concerned about eating healthy as they were wearing a mask.

EDIT: spelling
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Re: The etiology of TDS

Post by Tortoise » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:05 pm

Cortopassi wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:34 pm
Ohh, can of worms...!

Who's actually having Thanksgiving gatherings?
;D

I'm having a small gathering on my side (7 people total), and a large gathering on my wife's side (probably ~25 people just like every other year). At the latter, we plan to spend most of the time outdoors in the backyard. It's CA, so we won't freeze to death.

The large gathering on my wife's side was almost cancelled at the last minute for a few reasons, one of which was that the left-leaning hosts caught wind that a few conservative family members from Texas (who voted for Trump!) might be coming. No joke.
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Re: The etiology of TDS

Post by vnatale » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:05 pm

InsuranceGuy wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:58 pm
Cortopassi wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:34 pm
Ohh, can of worms...!

Who's actually having Thanksgiving gatherings?

I'm actually looking forward to a quiet 4 person nuclear family Thanksgiving with no stressing about food and discussion topics!
13 people for ours, my 5 and 8 immediate family members. We have a mask requirement except during the meal, not willing to shut down life completely. It is crazy fewer have tide from the virus than cancer or heart disease this year. I wish people were as concerned about eating healthy as they were wearing a mask.
For certain!

We humans bring on so much misery on ourselves by our poor lifestyle choices (this writer NOT excluded!).

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Re: The etiology of TDS

Post by InsuranceGuy » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:10 pm

vnatale wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:05 pm
For certain!

We humans bring on so much misery on ourselves by our poor lifestyle choices (this writer NOT excluded!).

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Re: The etiology of TDS

Post by vnatale » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:19 pm

InsuranceGuy wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:10 pm
vnatale wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:05 pm
For certain!

We humans bring on so much misery on ourselves by our poor lifestyle choices (this writer NOT excluded!).

Vinny
It's human nature want to enjoy life. As long as we don't overdo it we can live a long and happy life. O0
That is my biggest vice that I'm like a computer in being so binary. Either all the way or nothing. Little moderation.

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Re: The etiology of TDS

Post by pugchief » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:02 pm

glennds wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:33 pm
Question for those Trump supporters that draw a distinction between Trump the person and the New Republican Populist Trump Associated Policies -

If in fact it's the policies that matter and Trump himself might be disposable, then is there another person in the Republican Party, or anywhere in the political universe that you would see and support as a substitute standard bearer?
This is an excellent question. I don't think one currently exists, but I have no doubt some smart (R) politician will come out of the woodwork with that message by 2024.
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Re: The etiology of TDS

Post by pmward » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:36 pm

pugchief wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:02 pm
glennds wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:33 pm
Question for those Trump supporters that draw a distinction between Trump the person and the New Republican Populist Trump Associated Policies -

If in fact it's the policies that matter and Trump himself might be disposable, then is there another person in the Republican Party, or anywhere in the political universe that you would see and support as a substitute standard bearer?
This is an excellent question. I don't think one currently exists, but I have no doubt some smart (R) politician will come out of the woodwork with that message by 2024.
Is Trump going to allow that though? Rumor on the street is Trump is going to announce his 2024 run before Jan 20. Basically, *if* this is true, he would be blocking any other potential talented Republicans from having a shot until at least 2028. It would basically be a power move within the party, to keep himself as top dog and prevent anyone else from moving up (or on) for at least the next 4 years.
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Re: The etiology of TDS

Post by Cortopassi » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:43 pm

pmward wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:36 pm
pugchief wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:02 pm
glennds wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:33 pm
Question for those Trump supporters that draw a distinction between Trump the person and the New Republican Populist Trump Associated Policies -

If in fact it's the policies that matter and Trump himself might be disposable, then is there another person in the Republican Party, or anywhere in the political universe that you would see and support as a substitute standard bearer?
This is an excellent question. I don't think one currently exists, but I have no doubt some smart (R) politician will come out of the woodwork with that message by 2024.
Is Trump going to allow that though? Rumor on the street is Trump is going to announce his 2024 run before Jan 20. Basically, *if* this is true, he would be blocking any other potential talented Republicans from having a shot until at least 2028. It would basically be a power move within the party, to keep himself as top dog and prevent anyone else from moving up (or on) for at least the next 4 years.
Oh, God, we can't get rid of him. I feel an attack of TDS coming on...!
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Re: The etiology of TDS

Post by vnatale » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:03 pm

InsuranceGuy wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:58 pm
Cortopassi wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:34 pm
Ohh, can of worms...!

Who's actually having Thanksgiving gatherings?

I'm actually looking forward to a quiet 4 person nuclear family Thanksgiving with no stressing about food and discussion topics!
13 people for ours, my 5 and 8 immediate family members. We have a mask requirement except during the meal, not willing to shut down life completely. It is crazy fewer have died from the virus than cancer or heart disease this year. I wish people were as concerned about eating healthy as they were wearing a mask.

EDIT: spelling
An alternative point of view?

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Re: The etiology of TDS

Post by pmward » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:22 pm

Cortopassi wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:43 pm
pmward wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:36 pm
pugchief wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:02 pm
glennds wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:33 pm
Question for those Trump supporters that draw a distinction between Trump the person and the New Republican Populist Trump Associated Policies -

If in fact it's the policies that matter and Trump himself might be disposable, then is there another person in the Republican Party, or anywhere in the political universe that you would see and support as a substitute standard bearer?
This is an excellent question. I don't think one currently exists, but I have no doubt some smart (R) politician will come out of the woodwork with that message by 2024.
Is Trump going to allow that though? Rumor on the street is Trump is going to announce his 2024 run before Jan 20. Basically, *if* this is true, he would be blocking any other potential talented Republicans from having a shot until at least 2028. It would basically be a power move within the party, to keep himself as top dog and prevent anyone else from moving up (or on) for at least the next 4 years.
Oh, God, we can't get rid of him. I feel an attack of TDS coming on...!
I feel you. Is it really too much to ask to just have him quietly ride off into the sunset like every other ex-president ever? I've heard he is even planning on keeping his traveling rally circus going the whole next 4 years as a way to generate income. I can't say if these things are true or not, but it sounds realistic to me. I'm glad he won't be in power, but I fully expect him to do anything he can to stay front and center.
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