To counter this... isn't this how a "free market" works? When price gets too high, demand gets low, and then there is a period of adaptation, shake out, and change until eventually demand comes back online. There is more to the expense of CA than just policies as well (though I don't want to dismiss the fact that they keep spending over budget), but there is the weather, the ocean, and tons of high paying tech jobs. Those that aren't in those high paying jobs would get squeezed out regardless of policy. At least this is another angle to look at things at. There is never only 1 simple reason why something is happening.MangoMan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:56 pmI continue to fail to understand this phenomenon. The reason these idiots are fleeing CA (and NY & IL for that matter) is because they voted in a bunch of pro-tax big-spend progressives. Now they are abandoning the mess they created by moving away, but then vote the same stupid way that made their previous environment unlivable. Is it that complicated that they don't get it?pmward wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:42 pmAs someone who grew up in MI... I can tell you it is not odd at all that MI and OH went different ways. The two states hate each other. MI historically is also a blue state, and OH is historically a red state.SomeDude wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:38 pmMy boss' wife did that in AZ, so I give him hell for that every day. I flipped my wife over from Hillary, and so did another gal I work with since she got married and has kids and more income.
Ultimately this comes down to a few key states and what happened in them. Odd that Ohio would go crushingly for Trump, and MI/PA wouldn't. Very odd that FL would be a relatively easy win, where Trump was supposedly down in the polls, and he'd lose GA where he was supposedly polling up.
Very odd indeed
I wouldn't put the popcorn down just yet.
I currently live in AZ, and I can tell you that there has been a big shift here over the last 4 years. A lot of moderate Republicans did turn on Trump. A lot of young people that never voted before came out with extreme enthusiasm (if you ask me, it's the young people voting in a higher percentage than normal that won the election for Biden). We also have had a pretty big migration of people from CA over the last 4 years, as a cost of living arbitrage play. So yeah, AZ, especially in all the big cities save Scottsdale (Phoenix, Tempe, Tucson, and Flagstaff) have turned very enthusiastically blue in the last few years.
Also, in the CA to AZ arbitrage, one must remember AZ has invested a lot in aggressively bringing tech jobs to the state. There is a lot of tech talent here, at a much lower cost than the silicon valley. COVID has helped speed this up, as many tech companies are allowing people to work from home permanently, and they now can move somewhere lower cost. I've seen people in my companies silicon valley offices move to lower cost of living areas now that we are all working from home.