Whoa: Nearly a Third of Democrats Believe the Election Was Stolen From Trump

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Re: Whoa: Nearly a Third of Democrats Believe the Election Was Stolen From Trump

Post by doodle » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:01 pm

Holy shit...I tried watching the first ten minutes. I couldn't....so I did some fact checking from AP. The video implicates Dominion....however Dominion not even involved in Philly elections. Horseshit again it seems.

"CLAIM: Video provides data-supported evidence that the election technology firm Dominion Voting Systems committed election fraud by transferring vote ratios between precincts in Philadelphia.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Dominion technology isn’t used in Philadelphia’s elections, so the company had no part in tabulating votes there. Despite a flurry of false claims about election results in battleground states like Pennsylvania, there’s no evidence of widespread fraud or irregularities in the 2020 election.

THE FACTS: A video claiming to be a “smoking gun” exposing Dominion’s election fraud in Philadelphia is easily debunked: Pennsylvania’s largest city doesn’t even use Dominion software in its elections.
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Re: Whoa: Nearly a Third of Democrats Believe the Election Was Stolen From Trump

Post by doodle » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:04 pm

Yes, Christie is calling it a national embarrassment....yet the believers still believing. Its religious at this point.
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Post by Ad Orientem » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:05 pm

I prefer the term cultish.
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Re: Whoa: Nearly a Third of Democrats Believe the Election Was Stolen From Trump

Post by vnatale » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:35 pm

2016 campaign clearly stolen from Hillary!

From the book I finished tonight...there is far, far more in the book. All reveals how despicable many on the right are and how gullible are many of their supporters.

Vinny

Alexandra Krylova and Anna Vladislavovna Bogacheva learned about purple states, which sometimes vote for the “red” GOP and sometimes go for “blue” Democrats, on a coast-to-coast tour of America in the spring of 2014. For two young Russians with eager minds, this business trip must have been the adventure of a lifetime. They visited nine states, from California to New York, recording and absorbing all they could about American politics. Before they flew home, they dumped the burner phones they had bought for secret communication.

After they returned to Saint Petersburg, Krylova and Bogacheva reported to their office at the Internet Research Agency, which occupied a blocky four-story building at 55 Savushkina Street. The IRA, which employees also called the Factory, was established by an ally of Vladimir Putin named Yevgeny V. Prigozhin. Once imprisoned for robbery and prostitution, Prigozhin had grown immensely wealthy thanks to government contracts awarded to his main businesses, Concord Management and Consulting and Concord Catering. These entities oversaw the Factory, which was staffed by bright young Russians who were paid well for work that depended on their creative skills. The purpose of this work, which involved flooding YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter with posts, wasn’t always obvious, but the perspective was clear from the start. As one writer named Alexei would recall, he was hired after he was asked to write a persuasive essay about a conspiracy theory, first described in a novel, that imagined an American-led Cold War campaign to destroy Soviet society. This dark fantasy had been revived after the collapse of the Soviet Union and was so widely known that anyone with skill could spin a story about it on command.1

Dozens of Alexeis awaited Krylova and Bogacheva, who spilled out the knowledge they had acquired and began to organize a big new initiative called Project Translator. Eventually staffed by ninety people, the goal, according to an internal memo, was to disrupt American politics by spreading “distrust toward the candidates and the political system in general.” Soon, the place was humming, twenty-four hours a day, with the production of blog posts, video, tweets, and commentaries. Project Translator writers worked under thousands of false American identities and created online groups with names such as “secured borders” and “Blacktivist” and “Army of Jesus.” Others at the Internet Research Agency focused on Russian society, building up Vladimir Putin and stoking outrage about the United States. One typical domestic post invented the “news” that Americans were obsessed with a new video game with a slavery theme. This narrative would have been familiar to anyone who knew about the propaganda produced by the KGB during the Soviet era. Racism in America was a favorite topic for the Soviets, who used it to counter criticism of their country’s suppression of civil rights.2

Although creating general political mayhem was its original purpose, Project Translator soon calibrated its efforts to damage Hillary Clinton’s chance in the 2016 elections. Some fake influencers like Blacktivist were tuned to discourage those who might support Clinton from getting involved in her campaign or even voting. “No Lives Matter To Hillary Clinton. Only Votes Matter To Hillary Clinton,” announced one Blacktivist post. Others boosted her main rival for the Democratic Party’s nomination, Vermont senator Bernie Sanders. However, the biggest volume of material was designed to spread false information about Clinton in a way that would sway fence-sitting voters against and amplify the antagonism of those who already detested her. A Russian poster called Being Patriotic wrote, for example, “Hillary Clinton is the co-author of Obama’s anti-police and anti-Constitutional propaganda!”

Functionally equivalent to an online marketing campaign for a political candidate or party, Project Translator used corny graphics and flawed grammar to mimic the kind of messages that might be posted by motivated American citizens. This fake authenticity, projected by thousands of fake personalities, would prompt more than thirty million people to share the dispatches from the Factory with their online friends. The Russians also seized on new issues as they arose, sending out posts that boosted the efforts of the many well-funded and freelance antagonists who had made it their mission to attack Hillary Clinton. Books like the prolific Ed Klein’s latest harangue, Unlikeable, proliferated as various writers and their financial backers sought to create a thematic foundation for other forms of media—like the Mercer-funded CNS News, Fox News, and Breitbart, as well as conservative newcomers like the website the Independent Journal Review. Typical of IJR.com was an item titled “13 Extremely Vulgar Comments That Came Out of the Mouth of Hillary Clinton,” which included material from discredited sources in arguing that Hillary Clinton was a profane shrew. Its author, Kyle Becker, has studied Russian and Russian literature and was an alumnus of the right-wing Heritage Foundation’s youth leadership program. He would eventually be suspended for fabricating a conspiracy theory story about Barack Obama but would move on to Fox News, where he would work as a producer.3

Many new online operations like IJR.com, which sprang to life as the election neared, functioned without the old-fashioned regard for the fact-checking and fairness that were still practiced by the mainstream media. This was natural given that many were created by political activists and not journalists. The fact that they rejected the old rules was what lent them greater credibility among readers and viewers who had been persuaded that the mainstream media—often expressed as “the MSM”—where fact-checkers and lawyers were employed to keep journalists honest, was corrupt and unreliable. The key to their success was providing reinforcement of preexisting bias—in this case, “Hillary Clinton is awful”—with provocative snippets that kept people coming back for more. This clickbait produced revenue from advertisers who paid every time someone opened a new web page.4

The publication of a book was a news event in and of itself, especially if it offered juicy bits that could be flung at eager readers and viewers like chicken feed scattered in a yard. The fact that these items came packaged in hardcovers lent them extra respectability, and if the anecdotes, quotes, and arguments were especially provocative, editors and producers clamored to pay for excerpts or to trade lavish displays on their websites or programs. Authors received advertising that leveraged whatever goodwill came under the banner of a Breitbart or Fox. Viewers, readers, and listeners whose appetites were whetted by a promise of what a book might reveal were more likely to part with the $29.99, the going rate for a hardcover, to get more.
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Re: Whoa: Nearly a Third of Democrats Believe the Election Was Stolen From Trump

Post by glennds » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:14 pm

Ad Orientem wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:58 pm
... So far Trump and his surrogates have been almost invariably laughed out of court. Last night was an exception. The judge was not laughing. This judge, a member of the conservative Federalist Society, all but accused Trump's lawyers of lying to the court and attempting to disenfranchise an entire state. His opinion has been described as scathing.
You know what this means don't you?
The courts are rigged.
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Re: Whoa: Nearly a Third of Democrats Believe the Election Was Stolen From Trump

Post by glennds » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:18 pm

vnatale wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:35 pm
2016 campaign clearly stolen from Hillary!

From the book I finished tonight...there is far, far more in the book. All reveals how despicable many on the right are and how gullible are many of their supporters.

Vinny

Vinny,
Is the book Hiding In Plain Sight by Sarah Kendzior?
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Re: Whoa: Nearly a Third of Democrats Believe the Election Was Stolen From Trump

Post by SomeDude » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:24 pm

Libertarian666 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:15 am

Just block the lunatics and it will look as it did before.
I've looked around but i don't see how to do that. Can you give me a quick tip please? It's necessary on every forum to not feed the trolls. Thanks
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Re: Whoa: Nearly a Third of Democrats Believe the Election Was Stolen From Trump

Post by pugchief » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:42 am

SomeDude wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:24 pm
Libertarian666 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:15 am

Just block the lunatics and it will look as it did before.
I've looked around but i don't see how to do that. Can you give me a quick tip please? It's necessary on every forum to not feed the trolls. Thanks
Click on the user's name in the left column to view their profile. Then click 'add foe'.

Btw, welcome to the forum.
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Re: Whoa: Nearly a Third of Democrats Believe the Election Was Stolen From Trump

Post by doodle » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:07 am

Twitter critics went into overdrive on Sunday after the Trump campaign distanced itself from lawyer and conspiracy theorist Sidney Powell, just days after she appeared front and center at a press conference hosted by President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani and his campaign’s legal team.

“Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own,” Giuliani and campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis said in a statement. “She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity.”
This dude coming on the forum and immediately asking how to ignore people. Lol
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Re: Whoa: Nearly a Third of Democrats Believe the Election Was Stolen From Trump

Post by l82start » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:22 am

doodle wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:07 am
This dude coming on the forum and immediately asking how to ignore people. Lol
no sudden dawning of self awareness regarding the type of posts that are driving people to find the block button? or awareness of how badly these type of posts have lowered the level of discourse?
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Re: Whoa: Nearly a Third of Democrats Believe the Election Was Stolen From Trump

Post by doodle » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:54 am

l82start wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:22 am
doodle wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:07 am
This dude coming on the forum and immediately asking how to ignore people. Lol
no sudden dawning of self awareness regarding the type of posts that are driving people to find the block button? or awareness of how badly these type of posts have lowered the level of discourse?
Dude posts this...

I'd give Biden less than a 10% chance of taking office. The fraud is so obvious, i don't think the Republican state legislatures in these battleground states will direct the electors to vote for him. I think it's more likely this doesn't even get to the Supreme court.

Sidney Powell is a beast.
What does he expect when he makes a claim like that? Sidney Powell is such a beast that Trump just walked away from her.

A large portion of the Republican party is presently engaged in process of attempting to overthrow our democratic process. They should be treated with disdain.

Love it or leave it...isn't that what they say?
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Re: Whoa: Nearly a Third of Democrats Believe the Election Was Stolen From Trump

Post by doodle » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:21 am

Of course, our democratic process is flawed. There has been no evidence of fraud at the voting booths however. The scam has been in the making for years and is in plain sight. The perpetrator is our incredibly dysfunctional information systems which on both the left and the right have been peddling propaganda and misinformation for years. Propaganda so intense that North Korea probably is taking notes. Both sides eat it up.
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