Why Trump will be inaugurated in January

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Re: Why Trump will be inaugurated in January

Post by Tortoise » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:17 pm

The sound of a few dozen leftist journalists panicking in unison:

https://twitter.com/anonpatriotq/status ... 92065?s=20
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Re: Why Trump will be inaugurated in January

Post by moda0306 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:41 pm

Surprised-not-surprised that this is the video Tech chose to lay out his case... with incoherent Giuliani lizard-bleeding from the ears looking like the psychopath that he is.

What clowns we've exposed some to be...
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Re: Why Trump will be inaugurated in January

Post by Ad Orientem » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:02 pm

It is time to state something very plainly. Donald Trump is a liar. By which I mean he is a congenital liar. Some with more qualifications might call him a pathological liar. If Harry Truman were still alive, he'd just label Trump as a lying son of a bitch. I'm comfortable with any of those characterizations.

But however you choose to frame it, any claim of fact that might emanate from Donald Trump's mouth or Twitter feed should be treated as a presumptive lie until verified by an independent reliable source. That includes the correct time of day and the weather. Speaking of which, he has actually lied about the weather. He lies with an ease and frequency that most people would associate with breathing.

Never, in the 54 years of my life, did I expect to have to write such things about a sitting President of the United States. God save us.
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Re: Why Trump will be inaugurated in January

Post by glennds » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:38 pm

Ad Orientem wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:02 pm
It is time to state something very plainly. Donald Trump is a liar. By which I mean he is a congenital liar. Some with more qualifications might call him a pathological liar. If Harry Truman were still alive, he'd just label Trump as a lying son of a bitch. I'm comfortable with any of those characterizations.

But however you choose to frame it, any claim of fact that might emanate from Donald Trump's mouth or Twitter feed should be treated as a presumptive lie until verified by an independent reliable source. That includes the correct time of day and the weather. Speaking of which, he has actually lied about the weather. He lies with an ease and frequency that most people would associate with breathing.

Never, in the 54 years of my life, did I expect to have to write such things about a sitting President of the United States. God save us.

Ad Orientem,
Let's say your conclusions are 100% correct.
Then how does one reconcile that a little less than half the voters in the country do not see it. And some percentage of those, maybe half, go so far as to see him as quasi-messianic, hanging on his every word, easily recruited into his villianization of anyone who threatens him (media,former Presidents, Democrats and some Republicans, derided as RINOs)?

Is there a Jedi mind trick that works on some but not others?
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Re: Why Trump will be inaugurated in January

Post by Ad Orientem » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:43 pm

glennds wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:38 pm
Ad Orientem wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:02 pm
It is time to state something very plainly. Donald Trump is a liar. By which I mean he is a congenital liar. Some with more qualifications might call him a pathological liar. If Harry Truman were still alive, he'd just label Trump as a lying son of a bitch. I'm comfortable with any of those characterizations.

But however you choose to frame it, any claim of fact that might emanate from Donald Trump's mouth or Twitter feed should be treated as a presumptive lie until verified by an independent reliable source. That includes the correct time of day and the weather. Speaking of which, he has actually lied about the weather. He lies with an ease and frequency that most people would associate with breathing.

Never, in the 54 years of my life, did I expect to have to write such things about a sitting President of the United States. God save us.

Ad Orientem,
Let's say your conclusions are 100% correct.
Then how does one reconcile that a little less than half the voters in the country do not see it. And some percentage of those, maybe half, go so far as to see him as quasi-messianic, hanging on his every word, easily recruited into his villianization of anyone who threatens him (media,former Presidents, Democrats and some Republicans, derided as RINOs)?

Is there a Jedi mind trick that works on some but not others?

See Demagogue...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogue
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Re: Why Trump will be inaugurated in January

Post by vnatale » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:03 pm

l82start wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:54 am
vnatale wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:51 am
Totally stupid to believe to in any election fraud.

It requires one to believe that ALL the election fraud was dedicated towards Trump losing. Yet those same fraudsters did NOTHING at all to stop Republicans winning positions in the House, the Senate, or all the state legislatures.

If you really believe that Trump lost this election due to election fraud then you need to take a deep look in the mirror and do a self-assessment of your grasp of basic logic and reality!

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Our system of government demands a constant distrust of government. if you don't believe they are ALL crooks (and capable willing and actively engaging in fraud on the people), it is likely your grasp of basic logic and reality that needs a assessment..
I repeat:

Totally stupid to believe to in any election fraud.

It requires one to believe that ALL the election fraud was dedicated towards Trump losing. Yet those same fraudsters did NOTHING at all to stop Republicans winning positions in the House, the Senate, or all the state legislatures.



Furthermore...it requires belief that there was ZERO Republican voter fraud that does not cancel a substantial amount of Democratic voter fraud.

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Re: Why Trump will be inaugurated in January

Post by vnatale » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:06 pm

pmward wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:59 pm
GT wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:12 pm
vnatale wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:51 am
Totally stupid to believe to in any election fraud.

It requires one to believe that ALL the election fraud was dedicated towards Trump losing. Yet those same fraudsters did NOTHING at all to stop Republicans winning positions in the House, the Senate, or all the state legislatures.

If you really believe that Trump lost this election due to election fraud then you need to take a deep look in the mirror and do a self-assessment of your grasp of basic logic and reality!

Vinny
wow - I hadn't thought of it like that -

How did "Republicans winning positions in the House, the Senate, or all the state legislatures" not translate to Republican votes for Trump?

Republicans voted for Biden or left the President section blank as a nonvote for Trump?

I do want proof of the fraud - where is the smoking gun - or the IT guy with the data files to show the system was tampered with...
Flip side, why would the democrats "fraud" Trump out, but not "fraud" themselves into the house and senate. And why are the House and Senate races also not facing the same "fraud" accusations... even though they were on the very same ballots.

Common sense would say a lot of people wanted the polarizing Trump out of office, but wanted congress split to block some of Biden's policies.
Unfortunately, common sense and a Trump voter oftentimes do not belong in the same sentence.

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Re: Why Trump will be inaugurated in January

Post by vnatale » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:09 pm

glennds wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:17 pm
pmward wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:59 pm
GT wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:12 pm
vnatale wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:51 am
Totally stupid to believe to in any election fraud.

It requires one to believe that ALL the election fraud was dedicated towards Trump losing. Yet those same fraudsters did NOTHING at all to stop Republicans winning positions in the House, the Senate, or all the state legislatures.

If you really believe that Trump lost this election due to election fraud then you need to take a deep look in the mirror and do a self-assessment of your grasp of basic logic and reality!

Vinny
wow - I hadn't thought of it like that -

How did "Republicans winning positions in the House, the Senate, or all the state legislatures" not translate to Republican votes for Trump?

Republicans voted for Biden or left the President section blank as a nonvote for Trump?

I do want proof of the fraud - where is the smoking gun - or the IT guy with the data files to show the system was tampered with...
Flip side, why would the democrats "fraud" Trump out, but not "fraud" themselves into the house and senate. And why are the House and Senate races also not facing the same "fraud" accusations... even though they were on the very same ballots.

Common sense would say a lot of people wanted the polarizing Trump out of office, but wanted congress split to block some of Biden's policies.
Maybe the argument is not that the whole ballot is fraudulent. Just the one race where the voter chose Biden over Trump. The rest of the ballot is fine.
In other words what we're dealing with here is partially fraudulent ballots. To fix it what we need to do is surgically cut out the fraud like cancer, and leave the rest intact although it's possible some of the downballot Democrat votes might have been a bit of fraud too.

Or alternatively, maybe the Democrats are so good, what they did was fraud out Trump, but sacrifice the Senate and a bunch of House seats as a means of covering their tracks. That's Ocean's Eleven level fraud.
As you well point out those arguing fraud require others WITH common sense to exhibit a tremendous amount of faith in the unexplainable!

Sorry. I cannot exhibit such faith that goes so counter to common sense.

I don't have the complete opposite of TDS.

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Re: Why Trump will be inaugurated in January

Post by l82start » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:10 pm

Have i got a bridge to sell you...

for the record republican blindly pro trump = idiot
left blindly anti Trump = idiot
left blindly pro Biden = idiot
republican blindly anti Biden = stopped clock (idiot but correct)
permanent-skeptic = realist..
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Re: Why Trump will be inaugurated in January

Post by vnatale » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:12 pm

Ad Orientem wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:02 pm
It is time to state something very plainly. Donald Trump is a liar. By which I mean he is a congenital liar. Some with more qualifications might call him a pathological liar. If Harry Truman were still alive, he'd just label Trump as a lying son of a bitch. I'm comfortable with any of those characterizations.

But however you choose to frame it, any claim of fact that might emanate from Donald Trump's mouth or Twitter feed should be treated as a presumptive lie until verified by an independent reliable source. That includes the correct time of day and the weather. Speaking of which, he has actually lied about the weather. He lies with an ease and frequency that most people would associate with breathing.

Never, in the 54 years of my life, did I expect to have to write such things about a sitting President of the United States. God save us.
Thank you for so far more eloquently than I have been attempting to so.

He is sui generis when it comes to ALL prior presidents and ALL current and past politicians when it comes to telling lies. He is THE Babe Ruth of telling lies! No one comes close to his performance. Ever!!!

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Re: Why Trump will be inaugurated in January

Post by vnatale » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:13 pm

glennds wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:38 pm
Ad Orientem wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:02 pm
It is time to state something very plainly. Donald Trump is a liar. By which I mean he is a congenital liar. Some with more qualifications might call him a pathological liar. If Harry Truman were still alive, he'd just label Trump as a lying son of a bitch. I'm comfortable with any of those characterizations.

But however you choose to frame it, any claim of fact that might emanate from Donald Trump's mouth or Twitter feed should be treated as a presumptive lie until verified by an independent reliable source. That includes the correct time of day and the weather. Speaking of which, he has actually lied about the weather. He lies with an ease and frequency that most people would associate with breathing.

Never, in the 54 years of my life, did I expect to have to write such things about a sitting President of the United States. God save us.

Ad Orientem,
Let's say your conclusions are 100% correct.
Then how does one reconcile that a little less than half the voters in the country do not see it. And some percentage of those, maybe half, go so far as to see him as quasi-messianic, hanging on his every word, easily recruited into his villianization of anyone who threatens him (media,former Presidents, Democrats and some Republicans, derided as RINOs)?

Is there a Jedi mind trick that works on some but not others?
A ton of the "ends justify the means" rationalizations. Plus, the same as the responses I have received here. He is no worse than any other politicians.

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Re: Why Trump will be inaugurated in January

Post by Tortoise » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:42 pm

Tech's return to the forum:
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Even the legendary moda made a rare reappearance to take a swing at Tech. This is getting good...
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