i trust NO MEDIA at all these days, mainstream media including the ones passing themselves off as right wing are all bought and payed for by those corrupted by power..pmward wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:03 amI agree with you here on quite a bit actually. Though, I see Biden as the lesser of two bad choices by a long shot. Also, I believe the lunatic conspiracy theories on the "right" are much more extreme and delusional than those on the "left", though I do agree they do exist. Both sides have their populist propaganda. But on the "right" it's like looney bin tin-foil hat level these days. I trust National Enquirer more than I trust "right" media these days.l82start wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:47 amfixed this for you.. just to make the point that it absolutely applies to the other side in equal measure..Ad Orientem wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:02 pmIndeed. The way the political left in this country has so enthusiastically embraced lunatic conspiracy theories, and moved more and more into information bubbles that serve only to reinforce these delusional beliefs and other frankly extremist ideas, is deeply worrisome. This is how hitherto stable and healthy societies become destabilized with the radicalization of large segments of the population. And I honestly don't know what to do about it. There reaches a point where the true believers become impervious to facts and reason and withdraw into their own fantasy world of dark and malevolent right wing conspiracies. History has shown that once you reach a certain point, violence becomes the next logical step in "resistance" to the perceived enemy. I think we are getting very close to a tipping point beyond which things could get ugly fast.
the problem isn't that what you are stating isn't true,, the problem is that both sides are blind to the fact that it "absolutely applies to the other side in equal measure" the country was far saner when all Americans had an inherent (rational/justified) distrust of government..
in defense of the forums trump supporters I suspect that few or none of us/them are viewing trump as a messianic figure, he is a hot mess of a president.. rational skeptics and those righteously fearful of tyrants see him as the lesser of two bad choices. the left leaning cant seem to grasp the subtlety of that difference or the need to DISTRUST THEM ALL..
i will concede that there is a tendency for some to take a justifiable paranoia and run with it to the point of absurdity (Alex Jones types) but being a distrustful skeptic myself i tend to suspect that some or all of the wakadoo stuff is little more than another bought and payed for attempt to discredit the very same justifiable paranoia. if you take a common sense rational/justified distrust of government and connect it to a nut case you make all the real reasons to distrust government look shady..