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70% of Republicans Believe Falsehood of Stolen Election

Post by tomfoolery » Mon May 03, 2021 12:13 pm

Of course we can’t get people to wear masks and get vaccines when 70% of republicans are Trumpanzees who believe the falsehood that the election was rigged.

And now we have a dog and pony show of some so-called ninjas doing a pseudo-audit in Arizona that is closed to the press except the Trumponians at ONe Fake News Network.

Seriously how do republicans believe this stuff?

This election stealing nonsense is the big lie of our generation. And it’s being justified to enact voter suppression laws that put Jim Crow to shame. Also something about climate crisis.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/30/politics ... index.html
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Re: 70% of Republicans Believe Falsehood of Stolen Election

Post by I Shrugged » Mon May 03, 2021 2:08 pm

Why do 30% of your fellow Democrats also believe that Trump won the election?
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Re: 70% of Republicans Believe Falsehood of Stolen Election

Post by sophie » Mon May 03, 2021 2:40 pm

The undertone here is: How dare the American people disagree with us, CNN, the font of all that is holy?? Based on their numbers it looks like about half the population (70% of Republicans, 30% of Democrats) believe that the election results were not valid. I don't care what CNN's opinion is, in the face of numbers like that. This rises to the level of a constitutional crisis.

And by the way, CNN's position is not supported in the slightest. There were a number of concrete allegations made, ranging from pointing out statistical anomalies that could not be explained to reports of non-legitimately sourced ballots to irregularities in how ballot inspections and voting observers were treated. None of them, to my knowledge, have ever been specifically investigated, still less refuted. So I don't know how they can say that the allegations are either true or false. I certainly can't say that either, which means that I still believe it is possible that the election's outcome was altered by unfair means. Which means that the election needs to be considered illegitimate until that possibility can be ruled out.

Note that I'm not saying that this is more than a possibility. It's also perfectly understandable to me that plenty of people could have voted in favor of Republican candidates but voted against Trump because they couldn't stand him. Actually I should say that I expect that probably was the case..."understandable" is too strong because, well, be careful what you wish for...a lot of those people are almost certainly regretting their choice, or will soon once they realize what's happening.
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Re: 70% of Republicans Believe Falsehood of Stolen Election

Post by glennds » Mon May 03, 2021 3:35 pm

I Shrugged wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 2:08 pm
Why do 30% of your fellow Democrats also believe that Trump won the election?
That's not what the article he linked says.
... Although there is no evidence of fraud or wrongdoing in the 2020 election, many still say that Biden did not legitimately win enough votes to become president. The poll suggests the share of Americans who believe that falsehood has held roughly steady since just before he took office in January at 30%. Those doubts are concentrated among Republicans, 70% of whom say they do not think Biden won enough votes to be president.....
For whatever it's worth, and not saying I agree or disagree with it.
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Re: 70% of Republicans Believe Falsehood of Stolen Election

Post by Don » Mon May 03, 2021 4:36 pm

tomfoolery wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 12:13 pm
Of course we can’t get people to wear masks and get vaccines when 70% of republicans are Trumpanzees who believe the falsehood that the election was rigged.

And now we have a dog and pony show of some so-called ninjas doing a pseudo-audit in Arizona that is closed to the press except the Trumponians at ONe Fake News Network.

Seriously how do republicans believe this stuff?

This election stealing nonsense is the big lie of our generation. And it’s being justified to enact voter suppression laws that put Jim Crow to shame. Also something about climate crisis.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/30/politics ... index.html

You sound worried. Deep down you know that the election was stolen but you don't care because to liberals and communists the end always justifies the means.
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Re: 70% of Republicans Believe Falsehood of Stolen Election

Post by I Shrugged » Mon May 03, 2021 5:15 pm

glennds wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 3:35 pm
I Shrugged wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 2:08 pm
Why do 30% of your fellow Democrats also believe that Trump won the election?
That's not what the article he linked says.
... Although there is no evidence of fraud or wrongdoing in the 2020 election, many still say that Biden did not legitimately win enough votes to become president. The poll suggests the share of Americans who believe that falsehood has held roughly steady since just before he took office in January at 30%. Those doubts are concentrated among Republicans, 70% of whom say they do not think Biden won enough votes to be president.....
For whatever it's worth, and not saying I agree or disagree with it.
I didn't read the linked article. I was just repeating something I heard on the internet. So it must be true.
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Re: 70% of Republicans Believe Falsehood of Stolen Election

Post by tomfoolery » Mon May 03, 2021 5:41 pm

Don wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 4:36 pm

You sound worried. Deep down you know that the election was stolen but you don't care because to liberals and communists the end always justifies the means.
I'm not worried. Do I sound worried? I'm not worried. The truth is on my side. Republicans have been fear mongering for years to unite their base on a foundation of fear and lies.

Democrats' foundation is science and truth.

Science and truth beats fear and lies every time, my misguided friend.
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Re: 70% of Republicans Believe Falsehood of Stolen Election

Post by glennds » Mon May 03, 2021 5:52 pm

Don wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 4:36 pm
tomfoolery wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 12:13 pm
Of course we can’t get people to wear masks and get vaccines when 70% of republicans are Trumpanzees who believe the falsehood that the election was rigged.

And now we have a dog and pony show of some so-called ninjas doing a pseudo-audit in Arizona that is closed to the press except the Trumponians at ONe Fake News Network.

Seriously how do republicans believe this stuff?

This election stealing nonsense is the big lie of our generation. And it’s being justified to enact voter suppression laws that put Jim Crow to shame. Also something about climate crisis.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/30/politics ... index.html

You sound worried. Deep down you know that the election was stolen but you don't care because to liberals and communists the end always justifies the means.

How come he only sounds worried, but when I said it, I sounded worried AND guilty?
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Re: 70% of Republicans Believe Falsehood of Stolen Election

Post by Don » Mon May 03, 2021 6:45 pm

Haha! You got me there.
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Re: 70% of Republicans Believe Falsehood of Stolen Election

Post by fenns » Tue May 04, 2021 1:42 am

there is no doubt bad things happened

https://www.wral.com/pennsylvania-man-s ... ersion=amp
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Re: 70% of Republicans Believe Falsehood of Stolen Election

Post by SomeDude » Tue May 04, 2021 4:38 pm

I Shrugged wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 2:08 pm
Why do 30% of your fellow Democrats also believe that Trump won the election?
Because 70% of democrats are obviously liars as opposed to 30% of repukes.

They literally kicked out poll watchers and boarded up windows while batches of unfolded ballots with only Joe's name on them continued to be counted. Trump was up by a landslide on election night. He only got 1% of the votes cast and counted after.

Biden and Harris were so unpopular Trump probably got over 400 electoral votes.
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