The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

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Post by Libertarian666 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:10 am

Maddy wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:08 pm
Screeching woman with 6-foot tape measure, upset about social distancing violations, has to be physically restrained and taken away.
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/12 ... distancing
Did they obey social distancing while restraining her? >:D
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Post by dualstow » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:05 am

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I wish I learned more about American history in school instead of such a strong focus on Canadian history.

Stories about the Hudson's Bay Company don't exactly stoke people's interest.
I’m trying to think if I was taught any Canadian history other than pre-Canada exploration.
... ???
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Post by dualstow » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:24 am

Maddy wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:08 pm
Screeching woman with 6-foot tape measure, upset about social distancing violations, has to be physically restrained and taken away.
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/12 ... distancing
I took a look and was not disappointed O0
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by Maddy » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:36 pm

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I'd rather have Biden who at least appears to try to unify people in most instances.
I don't at all see Biden as "unifying" people--if you're talking about unifying left with right. What you may be interpreting as "unification" is Biden's potential ability to calm down the radical left by giving them what they want. Things naturally tend to be perceived as more unified when cities aren't being torched.
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Post by Libertarian666 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:19 am

Maddy wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:36 pm
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Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:06 am
I'd rather have Biden who at least appears to try to unify people in most instances.
I don't at all see Biden as "unifying" people--if you're talking about unifying left with right. What you may be interpreting as "unification" is Biden's potential ability to calm down the radical left by giving them what they want. Things naturally tend to be perceived as more unified when cities aren't being torched.

Yes, but of course appeasement won’t work with terrorists. It just emboldens them to demand more.
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Post by jalanlong » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:04 pm

Maddy wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:36 pm
Cortopassi wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:06 am
I'd rather have Biden who at least appears to try to unify people in most instances.
I don't at all see Biden as "unifying" people--if you're talking about unifying left with right. What you may be interpreting as "unification" is Biden's potential ability to calm down the radical left by giving them what they want. Things naturally tend to be perceived as more unified when cities aren't being torched.
Exactly. I am Libertarian so I was not a fan of Bush Jr or Obama. But I could clearly see that in the final months of the Bush administration the media portrayed the country as in complete shambles, led by nightly film of Cindy Sheehan Code Pink protests and a mortgage crisis blamed squarely on Bush policies. Then it seems the minute Obama took office, the clouds parted, the birds came out to sing and Cindy Sheehan disappeared from public view. So from that perspective, Obama was a unifier for sure. Now out in fly-over country, people were still divided. But it was not portrayed that way.
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Post by flyingpylon » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:28 pm

jalanlong wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:04 pm
Maddy wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:36 pm
Cortopassi wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:06 am
I'd rather have Biden who at least appears to try to unify people in most instances.
I don't at all see Biden as "unifying" people--if you're talking about unifying left with right. What you may be interpreting as "unification" is Biden's potential ability to calm down the radical left by giving them what they want. Things naturally tend to be perceived as more unified when cities aren't being torched.
Exactly. I am Libertarian so I was not a fan of Bush Jr or Obama. But I could clearly see that in the final months of the Bush administration the media portrayed the country as in complete shambles, led by nightly film of Cindy Sheehan Code Pink protests and a mortgage crisis blamed squarely on Bush policies. Then it seems the minute Obama took office, the clouds parted, the birds came out to sing and Cindy Sheehan disappeared from public view. So from that perspective, Obama was a unifier for sure. Now out in fly-over country, people were still divided. But it was not portrayed that way.
Obama was not a unifier, the narrative just changed.
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Post by Libertarian666 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:06 am

Simonjester wrote: Mayor Lori Lightfoot (Chicago) is against federal help quelling the riots and violence...
apparently she has it under control?? https://heyjackass.com/
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Post by dualstow » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:50 am

I know Obama is incredibly unpopular here, and comparing himself to Trayvon was not unifiying*, but I just want to say even he was against cancel culture.

*good posts about Trayvon Martin by PointedStick back in the day.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by Libertarian666 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:52 am

dualstow wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:50 am
I know Obama is incredibly unpopular here, and comparing himself to Trayvon was not unifiying*, but I just want to say even he was against cancel culture.

*good posts about Trayvon Martin by PointedStick back in the day.
No one to the right of Stalin is in favor of cancel culture. That used to be basically the entire population, but now it's only 95%: another silent majority.
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Post by vnatale » Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:59 pm

Just to show that while I disagree with this topic I do have a (tiny) sense of humor...

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Post by vnatale » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:02 pm

And, just sent him a Connect request on LinkedIn.

Here is his experience / education:
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Post by vnatale » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:04 pm

Had never prior heard of his university. Seems better than average?
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by Kriegsspiel » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:59 am

Thorough setup, Vinny, if a little drawn out. Now go for the punchline!
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by dualstow » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:12 am

I don’t get it, Vinny. Is this chartered accountant humor?
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Post by vnatale » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:21 am

dualstow wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:12 am
I don’t get it, Vinny. Is this chartered accountant humor?
That someone with such an education and present job could engage in such activities! Do you agree he'd NOT fit the stereotype of who you'd expect?

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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by Libertarian666 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:32 am

vnatale wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:21 am
dualstow wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:12 am
I don’t get it, Vinny. Is this chartered accountant humor?
That someone with such an education and present job could engage in such activities! Do you agree he'd NOT fit the stereotype of who you'd expect?

Vinny
TDS knows no distinction of race or occupation.
Of course I'm not saying you would act violently, but you yourself are a perfect example of a TDS victim.
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Post by vnatale » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:42 am

Libertarian666 wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:32 am
vnatale wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:21 am
dualstow wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:12 am
I don’t get it, Vinny. Is this chartered accountant humor?
That someone with such an education and present job could engage in such activities! Do you agree he'd NOT fit the stereotype of who you'd expect?

Vinny
TDS knows no distinction of race or occupation.
Of course I'm not saying you would act violently, but you yourself are a perfect example of a TDS victim.
I can assure you that the majority of people with his education and type job tend to lean far more to the conservative side than the liberal side.

With C-Span being my primary source of information - a source which is BY FAR the most balanced of any source of information ANYWHERE - where did I catch the infection which led to me contracting this disease?

As I prior stated, on election night Trump's words after his victory did not disturb me. It was only afterwards when the evidence came in of how he was going to govern (between Election and Inauguration) and how he actually did govern.

Vinny
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Post by Mark Leavy » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:34 am

vnatale wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:21 am
dualstow wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:12 am
I don’t get it, Vinny. Is this chartered accountant humor?
That someone with such an education and present job could engage in such activities! Do you agree he'd NOT fit the stereotype of who you'd expect?

Vinny
Having lived in Portland for twenty years, I can tell you that that pedigree produced EXACTLY the stereotype I would have expected. Those Universities churn out nothing but.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by Mountaineer » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:38 am

Mark Leavy wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:34 am
vnatale wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:21 am
dualstow wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:12 am
I don’t get it, Vinny. Is this chartered accountant humor?
That someone with such an education and present job could engage in such activities! Do you agree he'd NOT fit the stereotype of who you'd expect?

Vinny
Having lived in Portland for twenty years, I can tell you that that pedigree produced EXACTLY the stereotype I would have expected. Those Universities churn out nothing but.
Mark,
Is your avatar a tomahawk steak? Looks delicious. However, if that is the cut, it will soon be renamed as soon as the self-righteous thugs see it. ;)
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by vnatale » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:38 am

Libertarian666 wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:57 am
vnatale wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:42 am
Libertarian666 wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:32 am
vnatale wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:21 am
dualstow wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:12 am
I don’t get it, Vinny. Is this chartered accountant humor?
That someone with such an education and present job could engage in such activities! Do you agree he'd NOT fit the stereotype of who you'd expect?

Vinny
TDS knows no distinction of race or occupation.
Of course I'm not saying you would act violently, but you yourself are a perfect example of a TDS victim.
I can assure you that the majority of people with his education and type job tend to lean far more to the conservative side than the liberal side.

With C-Span being my primary source of information - a source which is BY FAR the most balanced of any source of information ANYWHERE - where did I catch the infection which led to me contracting this disease?

As I prior stated, on election night Trump's words after his victory did not disturb me. It was only afterwards when the evidence came in of how he was going to govern (between Election and Inauguration) and how he actually did govern.

Vinny
What exactly has Trump done as President that makes you oppose him?

I mean actual governmental acts only. Not tweets, speeches, or any other commentary. Just things like signing legislation, executive orders, or the like.
Before answering that directly I don't want to put my trust in someone who has revealed himself to be:

of low integrity

not an information consumer

not a reader

not analytical

always puts his interests ahead of the country's

poor judge of character (all the turnover in his administration plus all the indictments and convictions of those he hired)

poor impulse control

questionable intelligence (albeit high intelligence in certain dimensions of intelligence but not the dimensions of intelligence which most matter in his present job)

It adds up to about the opposite of the ideal person you'd want in his position.

I'll first do my research and get back to you to directly answering your question. I don't want to give a top of the head answer to that.

But I know you are a formidable intellectual opponent. Anything I bring up that I oppose you will find something to show that somehow I'm mis-interpreting or that is not what he meant or he was mis-quoted or taken out of context. But as I wrote that those all seem to fit in with what you described above as "Not".

I will give you a direct answer. Just not right now. In the middle of other things.

Vinny
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by Mark Leavy » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:44 am

Mountaineer wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:38 am
Mark,
Is your avatar a tomahawk steak? Looks delicious. However, if that is the cut, it will soon be renamed as soon as the self-righteous thugs see it. ;)
It is. I only order them when I am eating one meal every other day. That one was in Catania, Sicily.
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Re: The Left is Eating Itself Pt. II

Post by vnatale » Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:04 pm

Libertarian666 wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:59 am
vnatale wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:38 am
Libertarian666 wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:57 am
vnatale wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:42 am
Libertarian666 wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:32 am
vnatale wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:21 am
dualstow wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:12 am
I don’t get it, Vinny. Is this chartered accountant humor?
That someone with such an education and present job could engage in such activities! Do you agree he'd NOT fit the stereotype of who you'd expect?

Vinny
TDS knows no distinction of race or occupation.
Of course I'm not saying you would act violently, but you yourself are a perfect example of a TDS victim.
I can assure you that the majority of people with his education and type job tend to lean far more to the conservative side than the liberal side.

With C-Span being my primary source of information - a source which is BY FAR the most balanced of any source of information ANYWHERE - where did I catch the infection which led to me contracting this disease?

As I prior stated, on election night Trump's words after his victory did not disturb me. It was only afterwards when the evidence came in of how he was going to govern (between Election and Inauguration) and how he actually did govern.

Vinny
What exactly has Trump done as President that makes you oppose him?

I mean actual governmental acts only. Not tweets, speeches, or any other commentary. Just things like signing legislation, executive orders, or the like.
Before answering that directly I don't want to put my trust in someone who has revealed himself to be:

of low integrity

not an information consumer

not a reader

not analytical

always puts his interests ahead of the country's

poor judge of character (all the turnover in his administration plus all the indictments and convictions of those he hired)

poor impulse control

questionable intelligence (albeit high intelligence in certain dimensions of intelligence but not the dimensions of intelligence which most matter in his present job)

It adds up to about the opposite of the ideal person you'd want in his position.

I'll first do my research and get back to you to directly answering your question. I don't want to give a top of the head answer to that.

But I know you are a formidable intellectual opponent. Anything I bring up that I oppose you will find something to show that somehow I'm mis-interpreting or that is not what he meant or he was mis-quoted or taken out of context. But as I wrote that those all seem to fit in with what you described above as "Not".

I will give you a direct answer. Just not right now. In the middle of other things.

Vinny
Sure, take your time; I realize that you have other things to do too.
I'll wait to see what you come up with on governmental acts he has committed as President.
Thank you for consideration.

However, is it fair of me to ask the counter question of which of what he has done that you agree with him doing?

Vinny
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Post by dualstow » Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:28 pm

vnatale wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:21 am
dualstow wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:12 am
I don’t get it, Vinny. Is this chartered accountant humor?
That someone with such an education and present job could engage in such activities! Do you agree he'd NOT fit the stereotype of who you'd expect?
Mania comes in all flavors.
There are lawyers trying to murder cops with Molotov cocktails.

Plus, what Mark said about Portland.
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