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Re: New Vanguard ETF's

Post by dualstow » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:56 pm

I noticed them and I guess they have to put them out there for the antsy, but I have no plans to invest in them.
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Re: New Vanguard ETF's

Post by clacy » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:10 am

Speaking of Vanguard,..... why no 60/40 ETF from Vanguard that mimics VBINX?

Or Wellesley, Wellington funds etc?

I'm assuming there is some reason that they haven't offered ETF versions of these popular funds.
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Post by dualstow » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:13 am

My best guess is that even though they have to cater to the multitudes who prefer ETFs these days, encouraging people to trade in and out of something like Wellesley would be very bad for the fund. And that's what ETFs do. They make it easier to trade. I hope they never do offer ETFs for those 3 funds you mentioned. I don't know the real answer, though.
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Post by clacy » Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:30 pm

dualstow wrote:My best guess is that even though they have to cater to the multitudes who prefer ETFs these days, encouraging people to trade in and out of something like Wellesley would be very bad for the fund. And that's what ETFs do. They make it easier to trade. I hope they never do offer ETFs for those 3 funds you mentioned. I don't know the real answer, though.

Probably true and PERM proved that many people are perfectly fine using mutual funds rather than ETF versions (slightly different but close enough).
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Post by dualstow » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:50 am

How is PERM doing, btw? I never see threads on it anymore. Well, I guess I rarely see talk of PRPFX either. It’s mostly individual components.
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Post by clacy » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:16 pm

dualstow wrote:How is PERM doing, btw? I never see threads on it anymore. Well, I guess I rarely see talk of PRPFX either. It’s mostly individual components.

I just looked at it on Yahoo Finance and apparently it closed recently
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Post by Don » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:24 pm

clacy wrote:
dualstow wrote:How is PERM doing, btw? I never see threads on it anymore. Well, I guess I rarely see talk of PRPFX either. It’s mostly individual components.

I just looked at it on Yahoo Finance and apparently it closed recently
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Re: New Vanguard ETF's

Post by ochotona » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:30 pm

Maybe the loss of PRPFX is one of the many little bells heralding the market top.
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Re: New Vanguard ETF's

Post by clacy » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:01 pm

ochotona wrote:Maybe the loss of PRPFX is one of the many little bells heralding the market top.

PERM closed, but yeah it could be. PERM opened in 2012 I think, right after a huge decade for the PP.
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