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I did it for doodle

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:17 am
by MediumTex
doodle's Chicken Little act finally got to me and I went out and bought some TLT August 97 calls.

I picked them up for .75.

Maybe my bravado in taking the other side of his trade will help loosen up his thinking a bit.

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:15 pm
by Lone Wolf
Impressive!  Note that you lose "bravado points" if you hedge it with leather chaps and sawed-off shotgun futures.

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:11 pm
by MediumTex
TennPaGa wrote: I really like the phrase "I did it for doodle".
It's the truth.

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:35 pm
by doodle
:) I sincerely hope that is profitable for you. Actually I think that is a pretty smart short term debt ceiling trade. Longer term I still think you would be better off with some puts.

I hope I haven't become a contrarian indicator ;D

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:21 pm
by Gumby
Excellent lecture from Richard Koo on why we have contracted Japan's economic disease — a 'Balance Sheet Recession'...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OWGDWYB5KZ0

(Hint: Flip the resolution to 720p or higher to see the slides clearly)

You can also flip through the slides here.

Some striking similarities between our two countries.

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:47 pm
by MediumTex
Richard Koo is always thought provoking, though he never quite gets to the part where any of the sovereign debt is paid back.

Maybe that's the point--in his world tomorrow never comes; it's always an abstractin kept at bay by ever more elaborate central bank maneuvers.

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:50 pm
by MediumTex
doodle wrote: :) I sincerely hope that is profitable for you. Actually I think that is a pretty smart short term debt ceiling trade. Longer term I still think you would be better off with some puts.

I hope I haven't become a contrarian indicator ;D
What puts would you buy?

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:10 pm
by doodle
Puts on good ideas and clear thinking. I'm buying calls on more stupidity. :)

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:00 am
by AdamA
MediumTex wrote: doodle's Chicken Little act finally got to me and I went out and bought some TLT August 97 calls.

I picked them up for .75.

Maybe my bravado in taking the other side of his trade will help loosen up his thinking a bit.
I love it.

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:54 am
by AdamA
MediumTex wrote: doodle's Chicken Little act finally got to me and I went out and bought some TLT August 97 calls.
Why $97?

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:09 am
by MediumTex
Adam1226 wrote:
MediumTex wrote: doodle's Chicken Little act finally got to me and I went out and bought some TLT August 97 calls.
Why $97?
I just liked the risk/reward of that trade.

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:14 pm
by MediumTex
I just sold my TLT August 97 calls for 1.60.

That's a 113% gain in three days.  Probably the best trade I've ever made.

I did it for doodle.

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:16 pm
by moda0306
Folks... it's over... MT is now a day-trader.  Prepare for few posts while he runs his VTI, GLD, TLT futures contracts scheme.

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:17 pm
by MediumTex
moda0306 wrote: Folks... it's over... MT is now a day-trader.  Prepare for few posts while he runs his VTI, GLD, TLT futures contracts scheme.
Nah.

I told you, I did it for doodle.

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:58 pm
by melveyr
MediumTex wrote: I just sold my TLT August 97 calls for 1.60.

That's a 113% gain in three days.  Probably the best trade I've ever made.

I did it for doodle.
Nice trade. Have you read the Black Swan yet MT? I just finished it and I bet you would love it.

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:07 pm
by MediumTex
melveyr wrote:
MediumTex wrote: I just sold my TLT August 97 calls for 1.60.

That's a 113% gain in three days.  Probably the best trade I've ever made.

I did it for doodle.
Nice trade. Have you read the Black Swan yet MT? I just finished it and I bet you would love it.
Oh yeah.  When it first came out.

I've written a lot on how Nassim Taleb's thinking compares to Harry Browne's.

Here is a summary:

Nassim Taleb would stand in the middle of the neighborhood and shout through a bullhorn: "Lightning can strike anywhere at any time.  It is impossible to predict when it will happen, but some of your houses will be struck by lightning sooner or later.  I just wanted you all to know that."

Meanwhile, Harry Browne is going door to door selling affordably priced lightning rods, with simple easy to understand installation instructions.  When asked by residents whether this means that their homes are going to be struck by lightning, Harry Browne responds in a friendly voice: "We live in an unpredictable world.  Although it's probably not worth getting too worked up about, installing one of these lightning rods may give you some peace of mind.  I have one on my house."

***

In a nutshell, that is, to me, the difference between Nasim Taleb and Harry Browne.

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:14 pm
by moda0306
MT,

I'm beginning to wonder whether your analogy-creating machine is as bottomless of a pit as the Japanese debt/GDP ratio.

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:40 pm
by melveyr
Haha, that is so true MT.

They both recognize an unpredictable and dangerous world, but offer radically different solutions. I much prefer the HB slow and steady gains compared to Taleb's asymmetric payoffs.

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:14 pm
by MediumTex
Here is how smart I am:

I bought TLT August 97.00 calls last Tuesday (I think) for .75.  On Friday I sold them for 1.60, making a nice 113% profit in a few days.

If I had waited until today to sell those calls I would be getting 7.55 for them.  That would have been a 10-bagger in 9 days.

Perfect entry point, bungled the sale, left lots of money on the table.

I keep reminding myself, though, that I did it for doodle.

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:19 pm
by doodle
You can subscribe to my investment newsletter.  ;D

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:05 pm
by Storm
MediumTex wrote: Here is how smart I am:

I bought TLT August 97.00 calls last Tuesday (I think) for .75.  On Friday I sold them for 1.60, making a nice 113% profit in a few days.

If I had waited until today to sell those calls I would be getting 7.55 for them.  That would have been a 10-bagger in 9 days.

Perfect entry point, bungled the sale, left lots of money on the table.

I keep reminding myself, though, that I did it for doodle.
I'm still kicking myself for not having the guts to buy those August 15th GLD 155 call options for $0.50 a few months back...  I would have made about 1000% returns on that one as well...  and I was going to put $10K into it... lol...

Re: I did it for doodle

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:43 am
by AdamA
Why do I have a feeling that right now would be a good time to "do it again...for doodle?"