sophie wrote:Smith1776, are you the same guy fighting so valiantly in that PP thread on the bogleheads forum? I tried to support you since you were beleaguered from all sides. Your posts there, as here, are great.
I'm not sure the Golden Butterfly is going to be any easier to stomach than the Permanent Portfolio in the long run, because it would only reduce the tracking error slightly. Perhaps a better model would be to use the PP as your safe, core holding, and then indulge yourself with 100% stocks when it's safe to do so. The role of bonds in a standard Boglehead portfolio is to dampen the swings of the stock market, not to counteract them, and it doesn't seem worthwhile for the added risk you take with them. Why not use the PP instead? Psychologically, it would also help you to compare its returns not to the stock market, but to a total bond fund.
If you're starting out in your 20s and ignoring 401K issues for now, you could even do something like this:
1. Save a minimal emergency fund.
2. Save everything into the PP until the cash allocation is big enough to hold a comfortable size emergency fund. Then add in the existing efund.
3. Split future savings into 100% stocks and the PP. Use whatever split you like (50/50, 75/25, etc).
4. At 25 years from planned retirement (e.g. age 40), switch to saving 100% into the PP. Leave the stock funds alone except to rebalance as needed. Alternatively, you could merge them into the PP.
5. If your savings get large enough, figure how big you need your PP to be (could be anything from "25x annual expenses" to "infinite"). Once you hit that cap, start putting all your new savings into the stock portfolio.
This is way too complicated for me, but perhaps it would be helpful for people with the portfolio optimization bug. On the other hand, you don't get to enjoy switching portfolios every few months :-)
Thank you for your kind words. Yes, it's me on both forums! I haven't logged in to the Bogleheads forums since yesterday morning, as I didn't want to intentionally continue exposing myself to toxic attitudes. I don't think it's possible for anyone to be completely unbiased and objective, but I always try to be as much as possible. It started to feel like I was having a debate with a brick wall.
In regards to the Golden Butterly portfolio, I find it very interesting and a pragmatic recognition that indeed prosperity has reigned more than the other economic states. I don't use it personally, but I don't think I could blame someone for doing it.
Mentally and intellectually, if I were to adopt the Golden Butterfly, I would actually consider the traditional 4 asset classes as a "pure" Permanent Portfolio core holding, and the allocation to small cap value as being part of my Variable Portfolio. It would literally be the same overall portfolio, but it would be framed differently mentally. Anywho, just my two cents!