PP is once again positive YTD
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Calling the pp a "crowded trade" is crazy in so many different ways, It doesn't even make any sense whatsoever.
And if it WAS a 'crowded trade', that would be positive.
And if it WAS a 'crowded trade', that would be positive.
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Lack of buyers is not a positive. Price will have to decrease until an equilibrium is reached. If bond funds (driven by dumb money avoiding and/or fleeing equities) weren't so busy gobbling up the billions in Treasuries that China is dumping, you'd see what I mean.dutchtraffic wrote: Calling the pp a "crowded trade" is crazy in so many different ways, It doesn't even make any sense whatsoever.
And if it WAS a 'crowded trade', that would be positive.
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This is all the same kind of talk that scared me nearly 100% into gold and silver in 2008! Part of me still wants to just convert everything to gold, and screw the rest of the system.
But that obviously has not been working and who knows if it ever will. God, I wish there were more good options for investment. Yeah, sure there's this ETF, that bond fund, that global index, but they are all so intertwined nowadays if the SHTF (ever) they are all in for a major rude awakening. So where is there to go?
But that obviously has not been working and who knows if it ever will. God, I wish there were more good options for investment. Yeah, sure there's this ETF, that bond fund, that global index, but they are all so intertwined nowadays if the SHTF (ever) they are all in for a major rude awakening. So where is there to go?
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Full cash/short term mixed bonds.Cortopassi wrote: This is all the same kind of talk that scared me nearly 100% into gold and silver in 2008! Part of me still wants to just convert everything to gold, and screw the rest of the system.
But that obviously has not been working and who knows if it ever will. God, I wish there were more good options for investment. Yeah, sure there's this ETF, that bond fund, that global index, but they are all so intertwined nowadays if the SHTF (ever) they are all in for a major rude awakening. So where is there to go?
Take the "sure thing" trades only, individual stocks, married put, roll it down if you were wrong.
Super low volatility, huge profit potential.
Done.
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And if hyperinflation shows up, you might be able to buy a postage stamp with your savings.dutchtraffic wrote:Full cash/short term mixed bonds.Cortopassi wrote: This is all the same kind of talk that scared me nearly 100% into gold and silver in 2008! Part of me still wants to just convert everything to gold, and screw the rest of the system.
But that obviously has not been working and who knows if it ever will. God, I wish there were more good options for investment. Yeah, sure there's this ETF, that bond fund, that global index, but they are all so intertwined nowadays if the SHTF (ever) they are all in for a major rude awakening. So where is there to go?
Take the "sure thing" trades only, individual stocks, married put, roll it down if you were wrong.
Super low volatility, huge profit potential.
Done.
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Yes, for that, convert some to phys. goldLibertarian666 wrote:And if hyperinflation shows up, you might be able to buy a postage stamp with your savings.dutchtraffic wrote:Full cash/short term mixed bonds.Cortopassi wrote: This is all the same kind of talk that scared me nearly 100% into gold and silver in 2008! Part of me still wants to just convert everything to gold, and screw the rest of the system.
But that obviously has not been working and who knows if it ever will. God, I wish there were more good options for investment. Yeah, sure there's this ETF, that bond fund, that global index, but they are all so intertwined nowadays if the SHTF (ever) they are all in for a major rude awakening. So where is there to go?
Take the "sure thing" trades only, individual stocks, married put, roll it down if you were wrong.
Super low volatility, huge profit potential.
Done.
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The Volatility Parity PP Jr.! It's as low risk as you can possibly get.Cortopassi wrote: This is all the same kind of talk that scared me nearly 100% into gold and silver in 2008! Part of me still wants to just convert everything to gold, and screw the rest of the system.
But that obviously has not been working and who knows if it ever will. God, I wish there were more good options for investment. Yeah, sure there's this ETF, that bond fund, that global index, but they are all so intertwined nowadays if the SHTF (ever) they are all in for a major rude awakening. So where is there to go?
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Re: PP is once again positive YTD
That would only happen if he sat through all the destructive ruckus BEFORE the hyperinflation. No PPer is possibly that dumb. Once inflation went past 5% and killed bonds and stocks, it would be clear real assets are the place to be, preferably offshore. None of this stuff happens like a Black Swan and then snap, you're instantly wiped out. Plenty of warning. Even in Iceland.Libertarian666 wrote: And if hyperinflation shows up, you might be able to buy a postage stamp with your savings.
BTW, gold hasn't moved worth a hill o' beans when priced in the Syrian pound. That's not logical, so I suspect there must be an official rate being used.
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Re: PP is once again positive YTD
when things get like germany did in 1923 bartering will once again be the way to have commerce . gold wasn't used at all .
learn a skill you can barter with for that doomsday scenario if you are really concerned .
learn a skill you can barter with for that doomsday scenario if you are really concerned .
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Ah yes, so I did. That means my negative numbers are only 1/4 as bad as I originally posted (but still negative).Pet Hog wrote:3. You have forgotten to divide by four in your "worse" figures for 10/14. You can't just add the percentages together without factoring in that each asset only makes up 25% of the portfolio. So your worse numbers are actually all on the order of –0.8%; that is, they are better! And the dividends from TLT and VTI would appear to wipe out that loss, so a positive PP YTD.
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How ironic it is that it took a Republican (Lincoln) to free the slaves.Pointedstick wrote:MachineGhost wrote: LOL! I think you're dreaming. Blacks are always going to be eternally grateful to the Democratic torchbearers for getting them their civil rights.
But, it would be really cool if it ever happened.
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He only "freed the slaves" in territories that he didn't control.rocketdog wrote:How ironic it is that it took a Republican (Lincoln) to free the slaves.Pointedstick wrote:MachineGhost wrote: LOL! I think you're dreaming. Blacks are always going to be eternally grateful to the Democratic torchbearers for getting them their civil rights.
But, it would be really cool if it ever happened.
Anyone else could have done that just as well as he did!
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Yep. The Emancipation Proclamation freed no one. It was an utterly empty political gesture.Libertarian666 wrote:He only "freed the slaves" in territories that he didn't control.rocketdog wrote:How ironic it is that it took a Republican (Lincoln) to free the slaves.Pointedstick wrote:
Anyone else could have done that just as well as he did!
Lincoln's writings on the subject of race relations and segregation never seem to make it into any of the textbooks and other writings that shape the public's perception of history, and that's a shame. They paint a far more nuanced picture of who Lincoln was than the silly caricature of good old Honest Abe out there chopping wood as he tries to decide the next noble thought he will think.
If I could have dinner with any historical figure, I might pick Lincoln. Benjamin Franklin would also be cool.
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Note that slavery was abolished in many other countries without the horrors of civil war, and there is no reason that couldn't have happened here as well.MediumTex wrote:Yep. The Emancipation Proclamation freed no one. It was an utterly empty political gesture.Libertarian666 wrote:He only "freed the slaves" in territories that he didn't control.rocketdog wrote: How ironic it is that it took a Republican (Lincoln) to free the slaves.
Anyone else could have done that just as well as he did!
Lincoln's writings on the subject of race relations and segregation never seem to make it into any of the textbooks and other writings that shape the public's perception of history, and that's a shame. They paint a far more nuanced picture of who Lincoln was than the silly caricature of good old Honest Abe out there chopping wood as he tries to decide the next noble thought he will think.
If I could have dinner with any historical figure, I might pick Lincoln. Benjamin Franklin would also be cool.
So if I could go back in time to 1860 or so, I would assassinate Lincoln before he could set up the framework for many of the tyrannical government behaviors we face today, namely income tax, unbacked paper money, trampling on the states (no, I'm not in favor of slavery), and conscription.
Of course that doesn't mean that later Presidents wouldn't come up with those "brilliant" ideas, but at least they wouldn't have had such a head start.
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I always remember this when I hear about the Emancipation. Also it is terrible hah. (from South Park the movie)MediumTex wrote: Yep. The Emancipation Proclamation freed no one. It was an utterly empty political gesture.
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You mean Lew Alcindor?TennPaGa wrote:Looks like that goggled sky-hooker, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.barrett wrote: MT, is your current avatar Link from The Mod Squad?
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Remember people you can right click on an image, go to "Copy Image Location", and then go to Google Images, click on the camera icon for "search by image", and presto!barrett wrote: MT, is your current avatar Link from The Mod Squad?
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Indeed. Miracles of the Internets ---> http://www.zazzle.com/pug_graduation_ca ... 2269995081, found in 5 secondsMangoMan wrote:Wow, that is really cool. I didn't know that could be done. Data collection or not, you gotta love Google.Greg wrote:Remember people you can right click on an image, go to "Copy Image Location", and then go to Google Images, click on the camera icon for "search by image", and presto!barrett wrote: MT, is your current avatar Link from The Mod Squad?
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ahh yes forgot about that one for Chrome. I'm on Mozilla for my work computer out on a business trip and didn't remember that. Well, my way works for all browsers so take that TennPaGa! *throws hissy fit*
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Look at that cute little Asian dude down there. My hands are bigger than his feet.
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I heard that Kurt Warner briefly considered changing his name to Jesus Mary-Jehovah, but decided to just stick with Kurt Warner.barrett wrote:You mean Lew Alcindor?TennPaGa wrote:Looks like that goggled sky-hooker, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.barrett wrote: MT, is your current avatar Link from The Mod Squad?
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With today's strong jobs report depressing gold and bonds something tells me that we might be hearing from mathjak today.
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nope , i voiced my opinion enough about what i thought about the pp going forward quite enough times , which is no one is in the drivers seat to make any revisions as time finds this isn't the investment arena of old anymore . .
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MT back with his jokes to divert attention away from the poor performance of this portfolio. Wake up people before it's too late. Worst and I mean worst portfolio EVER.
Lose/lose.
Lose/lose.
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