The Permanent Portfolio Jr.
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- MachineGhost
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The Permanent Portfolio Jr.
I'll keep this short. For those that cannot tolerate the risk of the Permanent Portfolio, I've crunched the numbers over the past 100 years or so to come up with a substantially less risky version that still accomplishes the goal of wealth preservation and beating CPI inflation. Ta da:
80% 5-Year Ladder (CD's, Treasuries)
10% Stocks
10% Gold
Yep, thats literally it. You can then sleep like a baby at night. No need to worry about gut quenching 25% maximum drawdowns (either real or nominal depending on who you believe).
80% 5-Year Ladder (CD's, Treasuries)
10% Stocks
10% Gold
Yep, thats literally it. You can then sleep like a baby at night. No need to worry about gut quenching 25% maximum drawdowns (either real or nominal depending on who you believe).
Last edited by MachineGhost on Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: The Permanent Portfolio Jr.
What rebalancing bands do you use?
How do you go back 100 years across the line where gold was tied to the USD and come up with anything meaningful?
How do you go back 100 years across the line where gold was tied to the USD and come up with anything meaningful?
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Re: The Permanent Portfolio Jr.
I used annual rebalancing. I can't remember, but I think I used gold priced in GBP converted to USD to get earlier prices. Or just silver. Or real estate. It doesn't really matter. Birds of a feather flock together.Xan wrote: What rebalancing bands do you use?
How do you go back 100 years across the line where gold was tied to the USD and come up with anything meaningful?
However, real estate is a consistent underperformer.
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Have you seen Tyler's new charts during your hiatus?
portfoliocharts.com
You can plug your jr in there.
portfoliocharts.com
You can plug your jr in there.
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Oh wow, that's pretty darn cool!dualstow wrote: Have you seen Tyler's new charts during your hiatus?
portfoliocharts.com
You can plug your jr in there.
80% into Short Term Treasury is close enough, but of course in the real world, CD rates were higher and duration exactly 2.93 years.
T-Bills top out at 12 months, so technically it would be a T-Bill + T-Note ladder.
It looks like starting this when stocks are overvalued is a bad idea, at least for 10 years out.
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Tbills are riskier than gold.
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Cd's aren't.
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They are.Reub wrote: Cd's aren't.
The govt. might "guarantee" them, but what is that worth....?
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many years ago i read a book about the armadillo investing strategy . it was 80 % 5 year treasury's ,10% GOLD , 10% STOCK .MachineGhost wrote: I'll keep this short. For those that cannot tolerate the risk of the Permanent Portfolio, I've crunched the numbers over the past 100 years or so to come up with a substantially less risky version that still accomplishes the goal of wealth preservation and beating CPI inflation. Ta da:
80% 5-Year Ladder (CD's, Treasuries)
10% Stocks
10% Gold
Yep, thats literally it. You can then sleep like a baby at night. No need to worry about gut quenching 25% maximum drawdowns (either real or nominal depending on who you believe).
5 year cd's had a good run because of falling rates . you were always a head of the curve for most of history the last 40 years . but with rates rising , be careful , you will be behind the curve .
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Was it by Richard C. Young? 1 of 2 reviews say the focus was on dividends. (?)
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yes that was the author . he was pushing his book around the same time i discovered harry brown .
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Who knew that Machine Ghost was an armadillo?
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Who knew interest rates were rising?
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool" --Feynman.
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I backtested it through the 40-year bond bear market. Do not go past 3-year weighted maturity if you want to come out alive.mathjak107 wrote: 5 year cd's had a good run because of falling rates . you were always a head of the curve for most of history the last 40 years . but with rates rising , be careful , you will be behind the curve .
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I am but a humble armadillo...Reub wrote: Who knew that Machine Ghost was an armadillo?
[img width=800]http://i.imgur.com/rG85Arr.jpg[/img]
So much for my "original" idea, though! But I made a modification at least!
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Re: The Permanent Portfolio Jr.
According to this source https://books.google.fr/books?id=OgUEAA ... gy&f=false
Young's Armadillo strategy is 20% treasuries, 10% gold, 70% stocks, so quite different from MG's allocation.
Young's Armadillo strategy is 20% treasuries, 10% gold, 70% stocks, so quite different from MG's allocation.