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Post by Xan » Fri May 15, 2015 1:39 pm

It might also be that the power being out led to a lot of people not going to work.
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Post by bedraggled » Fri May 15, 2015 2:33 pm

moda and stewardship,

Apologies have recently been discussed in "Best PLaces to Retire."  This makes perfect sense to me.  That was the big issue in the New Zealand conversation.  You might wish to take your apology stuff there.  The thread is, surprisingly, in "Other Discussions." 

Will our thread on the Manhattan meet, which went well,  be demoted to a general listing?  I do not know how to do this.  Nor do I know how to use the "buddy" feature.

Any help?
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Post by Pet Hog » Fri May 15, 2015 2:41 pm

Cortopassi wrote: When I have my self driving car, I am all for traffic lights going away...
Self-driving cars was also my first thought when the traffic lights argument was raised.  If we don't have a government controlling traffic, we might devise alternative methods for road safety that don't involve lights at all.  Self-driving cars might obviate the need for any road signs.  It would be a completely private solution to a public problem.
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Post by moda0306 » Fri May 15, 2015 3:27 pm

Pointedstick wrote:
AnotherSwede wrote: What's with government and traffic lights?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFOo3e0nxSI
OMG CHAOS!!!!!!!!!! Don't you see! We need more CONTROL! Spontaneous order from chaos is an impossible, non-existent concept! Without a central authority we'll all be doooooooooooomed! Never mind that it appears to be working… it's just a ruse designed to lull you into a false sense of complacency! Soon there will be unspeakable, unimaginable calamities!
Doesn't that all seem a bit odd to you?

First off, there's congestion down the road somewhere screwing up the whole thing. Is that another place where the light was changed to a stop?

Further, it appears that their IS a requirement to stop by a couple parties, so it's not just a free for all. And I think it's common knowledge that one-way stops are more efficient than lights as long as they don't get too over-crowded on the stop sign and favor the highway goers over those trying to get on it too much.

To me, lights are about balancing the traffic of what would be a completely one-directional congestion. They're not meant to actually reduce it overall. For the most part anyway. Obviously accidents factor in.

In my experience, four way stops and lights suck, but are necessary to balance congestion amongst various directions. Roundabouts are where it's at. :)
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Post by flyingpylon » Fri May 15, 2015 3:49 pm

moda0306 wrote: In my experience, four way stops and lights suck, but are necessary to balance congestion amongst various directions. Roundabouts are where it's at. :)
I live next to the roundabout capital of the U.S. and although they have their own issues, roundabouts do work pretty well, certainly better than 4-way stops.  But surely there is someone somewhere that will fight to preserve the status quo to save the union jobs at all the traffic light and stop sign factories.
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Post by tennpaga » Fri May 15, 2015 4:45 pm

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Will our thread on the Manhattan meet, which went well,  be demoted to a general listing?  I do not know how to do this.  Nor do I know how to use the "buddy" feature.

Any help?
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Post by Stewardship » Fri May 15, 2015 5:27 pm

Traffic could undoubtedly be optimized if the government weren't in charge of it.  Traffic signals could function under better algorithms that allow traffic to proceed more efficiently for everyone.

This discussion reminds me of local candidates 20 years ago, before we had rush hour congestion, promising to prevent Los Angeles style traffic here in Las Vegas.  What we have now is Los Angeles style traffic.  No apologies from anyone there.
In a world of ever-increasing financial intangibility and government imposition, I tend to expect otherwise.
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Post by MachineGhost » Sat May 16, 2015 3:29 pm

Wow, 16 pages of hand wringing again in just a bit over two weeks?  I'm not going to even bother reading.

Some people need to get out of the PP.  There's no shame in admitting defeat.  There are less risky portfolios.
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Post by Stewardship » Sat May 16, 2015 4:27 pm

MachineGhost wrote: There are less risky portfolios.
Such as?
In a world of ever-increasing financial intangibility and government imposition, I tend to expect otherwise.
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Post by MachineGhost » Sat May 16, 2015 5:17 pm

Stewardship wrote:
MachineGhost wrote: There are less risky portfolios.
Such as?
Burn's Fat Tail Minimization Portfolio.
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Post by ochotona » Sat May 16, 2015 5:22 pm

MachineGhost wrote:
Stewardship wrote:
MachineGhost wrote: There are less risky portfolios.
Such as?
Burn's Fat Tail Minimization Portfolio.
Larry Swedroe?
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Post by technovelist » Mon May 18, 2015 8:29 am

MachineGhost wrote:
Stewardship wrote:
MachineGhost wrote: There are less risky portfolios.
Such as?
Burn's Fat Tail Minimization Portfolio.
I looked for that briefly and couldn't find it, so does it have any significant amount of gold? If not, I don't consider it low-risk.
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