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Jeffrey Gundlach on PP

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:04 am
by perfect_simulation
Jeffrey Gundlach promotes his PP @ 18:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd6zu-xylqo

Re: Jeffrey Gundlach on PP

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:07 pm
by Smith1776
Interesting that he mentioned real estate and Bitcoin as alternatives to gold. 8)

Re: Jeffrey Gundlach on PP

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:04 pm
by Kevin K.
Yeah and emerging market stocks instead of TSM and bank loans instead of bonds. Nothing remotely PP-esque about this guy IMHO.

Re: Jeffrey Gundlach on PP

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:58 pm
by perfect_simulation
Kevin K. wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:04 pm
Yeah and emerging market stocks instead of TSM and bank loans instead of bonds. Nothing remotely PP-esque about this guy IMHO.
Banks loans? He said 25% cash and 25% long term bonds. The odd parts were 25% bitcoin/gold and 25% emerging markets/asia stocks

Re: Jeffrey Gundlach on PP

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:17 pm
by modeljc
Kevin K. wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:04 pm
Yeah and emerging market stocks instead of TSM and bank loans instead of bonds. Nothing remotely PP-esque about this guy IMHO.
You will not find any prominent wall street guys smoking the PP almost!! They all have something to sell you. I'm OK with Jeffrey. He will sell his emerging market stocks when the U.S. stocks take a hit. And guess what? He may do better than us. maybe. We are not main stream with only a 1000 of us but this guy gets it's. Nice to see a little acceptance.

Re: Jeffrey Gundlach on PP

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:38 pm
by Xan
perfect_simulation wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:58 pm
Kevin K. wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:04 pm
Yeah and emerging market stocks instead of TSM and bank loans instead of bonds. Nothing remotely PP-esque about this guy IMHO.
Banks loans? He said 25% cash and 25% long term bonds. The odd parts were 25% bitcoin/gold and 25% emerging markets/asia stocks
Not just long term bonds, but long term Treasuries. I'd say this is definitely PP-esque.

Re: Jeffrey Gundlach on PP

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:38 pm
by ppnewbie
Anyone have good ideas for emerging market etf’s?

Re: Jeffrey Gundlach on PP

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:10 am
by mathjak107
I like eem

I would only buy if markets took a decent hit and rolled back ..to big of a run up recently in emerging markets for my taste

Re: Jeffrey Gundlach on PP

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:10 pm
by bitcoininthevp
Smith1776 wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:07 pm
Interesting that he mentioned real estate and Bitcoin as alternatives to gold. 8)
Real estate as an alternative to gold in the PP is absolutely insane. Even more so than bitcoins. Gold in the PP is a hedge against your nations currency having issues. If your nations currency is having issues that means the government is having issues. In an environment such as this, assets like gold, bitcoin, and anything that can move outside the country (or is already there) will start to do so. A struggling government is going to grasp at anything they can that remains, including and especially real estate, as it is so easy to tax and control.

I understand that real estate has some inflation hedge qualities, but that only covers some of the bases gold covers in the PP.

Re: Jeffrey Gundlach on PP

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:31 pm
by Smith1776
bitcoininthevp wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:10 pm
Smith1776 wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:07 pm
Interesting that he mentioned real estate and Bitcoin as alternatives to gold. 8)
Real estate as an alternative to gold in the PP is absolutely insane. Even more so than bitcoins. Gold in the PP is a hedge against your nations currency having issues. If your nations currency is having issues that means the government is having issues. In an environment such as this, assets like gold, bitcoin, and anything that can move outside the country (or is already there) will start to do so. A struggling government is going to grasp at anything they can that remains, including and especially real estate, as it is so easy to tax and control.

I understand that real estate has some inflation hedge qualities, but that only covers some of the bases gold covers in the PP.
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ppnewbie wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:38 pm
Anyone have good ideas for emerging market etf’s?
For fellow Canadians:

- Vanguard's VEE for market cap weighting at low cost.
- Franklin Templeton's FLEM for factor exposure.

Re: Jeffrey Gundlach on PP

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:51 pm
by mathjak107
bitcoininthevp wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:10 pm
Smith1776 wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:07 pm
Interesting that he mentioned real estate and Bitcoin as alternatives to gold. 8)
Real estate as an alternative to gold in the PP is absolutely insane. Even more so than bitcoins. Gold in the PP is a hedge against your nations currency having issues. If your nations currency is having issues that means the government is having issues. In an environment such as this, assets like gold, bitcoin, and anything that can move outside the country (or is already there) will start to do so. A struggling government is going to grasp at anything they can that remains, including and especially real estate, as it is so easy to tax and control.

I understand that real estate has some inflation hedge qualities, but that only covers some of the bases gold covers in the PP.
Real estate is far to wishy washy for the pp.

Gold has provided positive real returns in 98% of the market slumps ..real estate usually slumps too.

Real estate is decent in only moderate inflation ...it sucked when mortgages were 18% ....real estate only did well after inflation came down .

Real estate is very very different than gold as well as lacks the properties gold has

Re: Jeffrey Gundlach on PP

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:55 am
by perfect_simulation
I can't quite wrap my head around bitcoin being an asset like gold. Gold is a tangible commodity that also happens to be money. Bitcoin is a fiat currency in my mind - backed by nothing like the dollar and euro, etc. Might as well have some for diversification, buts its akin to cash IMHO!