Henryinroad wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:28 am
PrimalToker wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:12 pm
People always say the same thing. What I've noticed that although some parts of the PP could be expensive, one part is always inexpensive. That's how it works, non-correlated assets. It's just a guess on which one that is... If I had to pick right now it would be gold as the inexpensive asset. When it's $15,000 an ounce $2000 will seem cheap.
If we view the price in absolute term, it might be arbitrary to say its expensive or cheap. But I have a question in my mind, what if we view the asset (stock) in terms of valuation?
1.Buffett Indicator :
https://www.gurufocus.com/stock-market-valuations.php
The Ratio of Total Market Cap to US GDP is back to 2008 level.
2. Shiller-PE:
https://www.gurufocus.com/shiller-PE.php
Would a seemingly overvalued asset be an incentive for a more aggressive rebalancing to you?
I have researched this a lot. I pretty much learned from my data that the Shiller-PE is essentially useless until you are above the 99% historical average (which we are). However, even then, its usefulness is
extremely limited for 2 reasons:
1. Black Swan events. No ratio can predict someone flying a plane into a building, a war, a pandemic, zombies, etc.
2. There is little correlation with stock valuations and stock prices in the minds of investors at the moment. When that is the case, how far can the variance go? Japan went really far, no? Markets can remain irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
All that said, I would still keep it in the back of my mind. For instance, I don't think I would buy into a Golden Butterfly allocation. I think that if you are looking to be "safe" I would recommend:
Golden Butterfly when Shiller/PE & Buffet are at historically underpriced levels and transitioning into a traditional PP when Shiller/PE & Buffet are at historically overpriced levels (basically, a macro-level rebalancing).
With all that said... Long Term Treasuries are a completely different matter. I still for the life of me DO NOT feel "safe" owning them at such low interest rates. The whole Bond Convexity is great, but I am not convinced that our free markets are free enough to allow that to happen.
Maybe someone needs to make a poll on who is holding them and who isn't.