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Yeah with all the volatility in stocks, the PP is definitely getting more attention. I still get downvoted on Reddit though ;-) Thanks for posting.
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europeanwizard wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:34 am Yeah with all the volatility in stocks, the PP is definitely getting more attention. I still get downvoted on Reddit though ;-) Thanks for posting.
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Not worth posting, really. It's just that if asked, you give the advice to include a little gold to a beginner's portfolio, you're bound to get down votes on Reddit.
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Being downvoted for recommending gold is fine by me.

The herd hates gold. And thinking against the herd usually leads to better results.
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europeanwizard wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:34 am Yeah with all the volatility in stocks, the PP is definitely getting more attention. I still get downvoted on Reddit though ;-) Thanks for posting.
Don't feel bad. Everybody gets downvoted on reddit, for everything.
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just because the cash flow was like 1% that does not mean that is what the draw rate is .

draw rates are based on total portfolio value not just what interest or dividends come in ...

even a 100% equities can safely spin off a 4% safe withdrawal rate. i have to question the logic they used there .

someone needs an education on just how safe withdrawal rates are arrived at .

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Income generated
The portfolio generated $145.66 of income during the last six months. This is 0.68%, which is roughly 1.4% annually.

I had previously thought that using a short-term bond fund could increase the income to reduce withdraws in excess of portfolio income. However, recent chaos in the bond market had caused most short-term bond funds to drop anywhere from 4-6% despite their previous good records of maintaining a fairly stable value (see NEAR, JPST, and MINT, for example). They have recovered somewhat but are still down at this time. It does not make sense to risk a drop of 5% for an incremental 0.5% income, so I will stay with SHV for this allocation of the portfolio.

A yield of 1.4% is less than half the amount a portfolio will need to yield during retirement. Working it through at a 1.4% yield, an additional 2.1% is needed at a minimum. At this point, the portfolio is performing well enough to sustain a retirement assuming a 3.5-4% withdrawal rate. We will continue to monitor this portfolio."
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