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- Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:18 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 3 years of PP returns
- Replies: 25
- Views: 15632
Re: 3 years of PP returns
The low 2018 return is a bit artificial. If the year had ended a few weeks later or earlier, it would be a whole different story. The YTD 2019 returns reflect the deep transient market dive at year's end: the PP stands at 7.8% and GB at 9% - and this is just for the first half of the year! Even tho...
- Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:28 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 3 years of PP returns
- Replies: 25
- Views: 15632
Re: 3 years of PP returns
For May 2016-May 2019 Bureau of Labor Statistics report the U.S. Consumer price index as up 6.6%. So inflation has averaged +2.2% over three years. A little more than I thought! I am happy with the PP I think since 2014 the returns are lower than history I think some deflation is in the system but c...
- Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:25 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 3 years of PP returns
- Replies: 25
- Views: 15632
Re: 3 years of PP returns
Real is real, that’s why we use it and not nominal. "Shilling notes that U.S. inflation numbers don’t register the full impact of falling prices because the Bureau of Labor Statistics has not kept up with the explosion of new technology products." The goverment can't measure inflation but...
- Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:21 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 3 years of PP returns
- Replies: 25
- Views: 15632
Re: 3 years of PP returns
Real is real, that’s why we use it and not nominal. "Shilling notes that U.S. inflation numbers don’t register the full impact of falling prices because the Bureau of Labor Statistics has not kept up with the explosion of new technology products." The goverment can't measure inflation but...
- Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:16 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 3 years of PP returns
- Replies: 25
- Views: 15632
Re: 3 years of PP returns
No one is picking up on we may be OK with recent PP returns if DEFLATION has started.
https://www.thinkadvisor.com/2019/02/16 ... 0512161205
https://www.thinkadvisor.com/2019/02/16 ... 0512161205
- Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:11 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 3 years of PP returns
- Replies: 25
- Views: 15632
Re: 3 years of PP returns
In 47 years the PP has made plus 3% REAL 77% of the time using a 3 year rolling average. 11 years or 23% they have made less. Here are the 11 years: 1977 2.8% 1990 1.1% 1994 2.1% 2000 2.6% 2001 .2% 2002 2.3% 2008 2.8% 2014 2.9% 2015 1.5% 2017 2.6% 2018 2.8% These numbers are from a friend and not fr...
- Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:43 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 3 years of PP returns
- Replies: 25
- Views: 15632
Re: 3 years of PP returns
Agreed, three years is too short of a timeframe from which to judge the PP. As has been noted in discussions on this forum over the years, the PP can have (and actually has had, once or twice) negative returns for rolling time windows of up to about three years. If I recall, there are very few port...
- Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:31 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 3 years of PP returns
- Replies: 25
- Views: 15632
3 years of PP returns
PP Returns:
Last 12 months 6.6%
Last 24 months 4.8%
Last 36 months 4.9%
YTD 7.9%
If you take out inflation of 2% or so these returns appear to be about 1% or 2% LOW vs history.
If we have had actual DEFLATION of 1% maybe we are OK?
Anybody Happy?
Last 12 months 6.6%
Last 24 months 4.8%
Last 36 months 4.9%
YTD 7.9%
If you take out inflation of 2% or so these returns appear to be about 1% or 2% LOW vs history.
If we have had actual DEFLATION of 1% maybe we are OK?
Anybody Happy?
- Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:03 pm
- Forum: Other Discussions
- Topic: bud split
- Replies: 11
- Views: 5200
Re: The GOLD scream room
Budd had about 2000 posts. I remember a lot of hand holding from med tex and craig. Nobody on this board has had more support from others. When you have had this high level of support and want to be banned it is OK by me.
- Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:31 pm
- Forum: Gold
- Topic: The GOLD scream room
- Replies: 3693
- Views: 1782854
Re: The GOLD scream room
You know the rest...junk! No matter what anyone tells you avoid Au like the plague. PP not much better at all. Thank god I reduced my allocation to the assets that go no where but down. Where’s ugly_bird? Seems he deleted his post. For his benefit, stocks are + ~20% YTD and precious gold is negativ...
- Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:05 pm
- Forum: Gold
- Topic: The GOLD scream room
- Replies: 3693
- Views: 1782854
Re: The GOLD scream room
You know the rest...junk! No matter what anyone tells you avoid Au like the plague. PP not much better at all. Thank god I reduced my allocation to the assets that go no where but down. Where’s ugly_bird? Seems he deleted his post. For his benefit, stocks are + ~20% YTD and precious gold is negativ...
- Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:41 pm
- Forum: Variable Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Tactical Asset Allocation + HBPP an intriguing combo
- Replies: 500
- Views: 306255
Re: Dual Momentum GEM + HBPP a great combo, easy to test
No big bounce to 2674. Looks like I'm selling Monday. It has been a good run since 4/2016. My port will be about 10% gold, 12% cash, 5% equities, the rest 2-7 year T-Notes. Big bet placed on the US Treasury! Like to hear how many trades and what did you NET over a buy and hold 100% SPY. In other wo...
- Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:03 pm
- Forum: Variable Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Tactical Asset Allocation + HBPP an intriguing combo
- Replies: 500
- Views: 306255
Re: Dual Momentum GEM + HBPP a great combo, easy to test
No big bounce to 2674. Looks like I'm selling Monday. It has been a good run since 4/2016. My port will be about 10% gold, 12% cash, 5% equities, the rest 2-7 year T-Notes. Big bet placed on the US Treasury! Like to hear how many trades and what did you NET over a buy and hold 100% SPY. In other wo...
- Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:31 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Worst investing year ever...
- Replies: 67
- Views: 38472
Re: Worst investing year ever...
Merry Christmas - target allocation is 35/15/15/35. A little more prosperity and cash, a little less gold and LTT’s. I think I can follow this allocation without much regret. Merry Christmas. Thanks If I was a little younger I would go at least 40% prosperity as cash does not return full value a lo...
- Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:04 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Worst investing year ever...
- Replies: 67
- Views: 38472
Re: Worst investing year ever...
I’m sticking to the plan and moving from 25/25/15/35 to 35/15/15/35 and am currently 30/17.5/17.5/35. I TLH Gold and offset gains in SCV (IJS) I then bought SC Blend (IJR) to move closer to 35% Definitely have felt the pain in stocks as IJR is down 6% since that purchase. Basically, sold some gold ...
- Mon Dec 24, 2018 5:42 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Worst investing year ever...
- Replies: 67
- Views: 38472
Re: Worst investing year ever...
I’m sticking to the plan and moving from 25/25/15/35 to 35/15/15/35 and am currently 30/17.5/17.5/35. I TLH Gold and offset gains in SCV (IJS) I then bought SC Blend (IJR) to move closer to 35% Definitely have felt the pain in stocks as IJR is down 6% since that purchase. Basically, sold some gold ...
- Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:38 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Purpose of the PP
- Replies: 152
- Views: 78341
Re: Purpose of the PP
Actually I think you are the fool. I’ve run across people like you all my life, thinking they are superior than someone else in one way or another. Again, humorous to me these are usually the losers of the bunch Mr. vacuum cleaner. Like the PP, you suck. Budd, this has always been a very "hand...
- Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:50 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 10 years of PP ownership
- Replies: 5
- Views: 3986
Re: 10 years of PP ownership
I started our PP in late 08, during the meltdown. Since then, the 10 year avg annual return has been 5.5%. On balance I am happy with that. It seems like it should be much higher, but then again, the gold, the cash, not much return there. Disclosure, I have some variances in the portfolio, mostly b...
- Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:16 pm
- Forum: Gold
- Topic: The GOLD scream room
- Replies: 3693
- Views: 1782854
Re: The GOLD scream room
Gold is a precious metal. It so valuable that you can buy it at the cost of production! About $1100. Back up the truck. Get all you want. I do believe in PP. But it's a hard sell for all my friends. Think 1982 when interest rates were high. Went from $850 to $250. A little correction but it was a lo...
- Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:28 pm
- Forum: Gold
- Topic: The GOLD scream room
- Replies: 3693
- Views: 1782854
Re: The GOLD scream room
Is everyone sitting down? I’ve come full circle, acceptance. Sticking to rebalancing bands and focusing on loss harvesting. It’s easier that way for all of us! Who are you and what have you done with Buddtholomew! Congrats to you! Your peace of mind will thank you. Put the gold investment out of si...
- Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:50 pm
- Forum: Gold
- Topic: The GOLD scream room
- Replies: 3693
- Views: 1782854
Re: The GOLD scream room
Is everyone sitting down? I’ve come full circle, acceptance. Sticking to rebalancing bands and focusing on loss harvesting. It’s easier that way for all of us! Who are you and what have you done with Buddtholomew! Congrats to you! Your peace of mind will thank you. Put the gold investment out of si...
- Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:22 am
- Forum: Variable Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: PP Inspired Leveraged Portfolios
- Replies: 237
- Views: 535730
Re: PP Inspired Leveraged Portfolios
Hi all, adding my 2 cents. My leveraged PP is the following: 45% UPRO 35% TMF 20% UGLD I keep it simple and just rebalance annually. Its returned 22.23% CAGR over the past 5 years (2013-2017), here's a performance screenshot: http://www.tightwadweb.com/3x-2013-2017.jpg So far, the first 6 months of...
- Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:05 pm
- Forum: Gold
- Topic: The GOLD scream room
- Replies: 3693
- Views: 1782854
Re: The GOLD scream room
I am a fan of PP. OK! So here is something that no one can do. Perdict the price of gold for 17 years out! Let me start with the price of Production: It is about $1100 to produce an ounce of gold. Why pay more! Jumping to a conclusion gold will not be over $1900 for 17 years if you believe in the 17...
- Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:20 am
- Forum: Gold
- Topic: The GOLD scream room
- Replies: 3693
- Views: 1782854
Re: The GOLD scream room
I don't think any asset class likes higher interest rates.
- Tue May 01, 2018 7:00 pm
- Forum: Variable Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Tactical Asset Allocation + HBPP an intriguing combo
- Replies: 500
- Views: 306255
Re: Dual Momentum GEM + HBPP a great combo, easy to test
Thanks! When I look at the charts lines cross but still no change. I guess they can cross back.ochotona wrote:No change to the portfolio for May 2018. Still in 81% SCHF + 19% SCHE, or 100% in VEU.