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by jafs
Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:51 am
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29053

Re: Citizen's Dividend

Thanks.

I like yours a lot :D

Well, there's no gallery available to choose from - maybe I'll just leave it for now.
by jafs
Sun Jun 05, 2016 7:52 am
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29053

Re: Citizen's Dividend

Relative costs of living. If MG is correct, and the $2500 swiss francs is just above the poverty level income for somebody in switzerland, then it would translate to less than half of that in the US - the US poverty level in 2016 is about $12K/yr. In other words, the equivalent US$ cd would be somew...
by jafs
Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:53 am
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29053

Re: Citizen's Dividend

Where would you suggest the level be set? According to previous posts, the income level is just barely above the poverty level, and I don't have kids, but know they're pretty expensive, so I'm not sure that about $300/month/child is that high? Especially if this replaces all other programs to help l...
by jafs
Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:38 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29053

Re: Citizen's Dividend

One of his requirements was that people use $3K of their dividend to pay for health insurance.
by jafs
Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:43 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29053

Re: Citizen's Dividend

Where are the other left leaning folks?

Please come back, so I don't feel like the "token liberal" as MG puts it :)
by jafs
Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:39 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29053

Re: Citizen's Dividend

How do I change my avatar?
by jafs
Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:37 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29053

Re: Citizen's Dividend

And, heck, never mind Gates, et. al. My wife and I are in the lower range of middle class - why should the government give us $30K/yr? We don't need it, and haven't earned it in any way that I can tell. That's the whole point, you get it without 'earning' it. How do the people on welfare now 'earn'...
by jafs
Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:56 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29053

Re: Citizen's Dividend

And, heck, never mind Gates, et. al. My wife and I are in the lower range of middle class - why should the government give us $30K/yr? We don't need it, and haven't earned it in any way that I can tell. To reduce the risk of you falling into poverty for whatever reason? That's the whole point. Are ...
by jafs
Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:53 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29053

Re: Citizen's Dividend

I agree about the jobs issue - if there aren't decent jobs available for people, no cd or mi program is going to fix everything by itself. My idea is very different from Obamacare (which is working well in some ways and not as well in others) - I mean directly provided free health care, not insuranc...
by jafs
Sat Jun 04, 2016 3:31 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29053

Re: Citizen's Dividend

i think its a very interesting idea IF you eliminate the welfare state and the bureaucracy, the unintended consequences and the waste that goes with it,.... if you don't then whats the point.. That is exactly the point. It might be perfectly possible for the dividend to be revenue-neutral. Managing...
by jafs
Sat Jun 04, 2016 3:27 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29053

Re: Citizen's Dividend

Your policies keep people trapped in poverty, jafs. I don't know how you don't see that. If the government subsidizes everybody up to $15K, then what incentive is there for somebody who's poor to go and get an entry level job? His pay would be effectively zero. He won't do it. You're creating a hug...
by jafs
Sat Jun 04, 2016 2:28 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29053

Re: Citizen's Dividend

C. Murray is the libertarian that I first saw advocating something like this a while back, I think. His proposal involves doing away with Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and a lot of other programs. So I think it's extremely unlikely to get much political traction. Also, I'm not at all sure tha...