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by jafs
Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:18 am
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29047

Re: Citizen's Dividend

I understand the idea. But I just don't think it works better than a minimum income program, for one. So far, it might help you fix up your house, or quit your job. For me, it would probably have little effect and, if there were one, it might mean we'd just retire sooner (assuming the ACA is still a...
by jafs
Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:32 am
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29047

Re: Citizen's Dividend

A Swiss person I read a quote from (could have been an official of some sort) said about the cd program - "If you pay people to do nothing, they'll do nothing".

It sounds like concern about disincentivizing people from working was a big part of why this got voted down there.
by jafs
Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:29 am
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29047

Re: Citizen's Dividend

So this would help PS do things he could do already, but isn't doing. And, given the fact that he could easily do them now, in his own words, he doesn't need this program. Anybody else? Every time I've looked at ACA plans I've found very good ones with reasonable premiums and cost-sharing stuff as w...
by jafs
Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:44 am
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29047

Re: Citizen's Dividend

Any federal program that's simple will overlook regional differences, and thus be a bit less satisfying. This is true of cd, mi, minimum wage, poverty level calculations, etc. $1000/month generates vastly different purchasing power in NYC and in rural Mississippi, to use an obvious example. If the g...
by jafs
Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:33 am
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29047

Re: Citizen's Dividend

The part I agree with here is that our current system is too complicated/bureaucratic, and that there are some bad incentives in it, ones that discourage what we want to encourage, and vice versa. A cd would simplify the system, for sure. But so would a mi program - just set the minimum income level...
by jafs
Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:18 am
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29047

Re: Citizen's Dividend

A question for citizen's dividend folks. Let's assume that it's implemented, and everybody gets $15K/yr. What would you do if you got that? I'd just put it in the bank or invest it - it wouldn't change anything else for me. Or I might give some to charity as well. In some circumstances, it might res...
by jafs
Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:15 am
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29047

Re: Citizen's Dividend

I've already answered your comments about disincentives by pointing out that a cd of $15K/yr is equally disincentivizing as a mi program of $15K/yr. You failed to respond to that point at all. It's false. If I have a citizens' dividend of $15K, and I want to start a business, or just go out and ear...
by jafs
Sun Jun 05, 2016 7:03 pm
Forum: Bonds
Topic: The Bond Dream Room
Replies: 546
Views: 220075

Re: The Bond Dream Room

You could also just set them to re-balance every year.

In some ways that's the most "agnostic" approach - figuring we have no idea how things will do next year, regardless of how they've gone this year.
by jafs
Sun Jun 05, 2016 3:41 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29047

Re: Citizen's Dividend

Hey, I figured it out.

But, nobody offered to help :(
by jafs
Sun Jun 05, 2016 3:18 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29047

Re: Citizen's Dividend

I would probably change the SS system to work in a similar fashion. That would mean if we didn't need it, we wouldn't get it, and that would be fine with me. As it turns out, we'll probably need it, although I've played with the idea of not taking it if that's feasible. I've already answered your co...
by jafs
Sun Jun 05, 2016 3:03 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29047

Re: Citizen's Dividend

Ok - I found a picture I like.

Now I just need to know how to make it my avatar.
by jafs
Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:41 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29047

Re: Citizen's Dividend

I can't just be a mystery, wrapped in an engima? Maybe a little embarrassing, but I have no idea how to go about uploading a picture, or where to find a good one. I play chess often, so perhaps a chess-related picture would be good. Or something musical. Anybody want to give me a little tutorial on ...