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by jafs
Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:32 am
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29051

Re: Citizen's Dividend

As far as "utopian" goes, I'd say that many of you are much more utopian in outlook than I am. I see the flaws in government, but also in the private sector. And, I'd like to improve both - that doesn't mean I think there are perfect solutions. As I've already said - all systems have drawbacks. If ...
by jafs
Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:24 am
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29051

Re: Citizen's Dividend

Am I being silly not wanting to go on Medicaid? I've heard horror stories, but if it's a secret gift horse, then I'm a lot closer to FI than I thought. :P It galls me that there's no option, though. Yes, that's exactly what you should do, given that you're a well-educated, working professional with...
by jafs
Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:21 am
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29051

Re: Citizen's Dividend

Am I being silly not wanting to go on Medicaid? I've heard horror stories, but if it's a secret gift horse, then I'm a lot closer to FI than I thought. :P It galls me that there's no option, though. Yes, that's exactly what you should do, given that you're a well-educated, working professional with...
by jafs
Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:04 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29051

Re: Citizen's Dividend

If the goal is to keep people out of poverty, we'd really have to use different figures for different areas, and that makes things more complicated. Yes, its a problem, but in this age of computing power where we can track literally hundreds of different sales tax rates for every locality, its not ...
by jafs
Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:03 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29051

Re: Citizen's Dividend

So far, nobody has said they'd be more productive if they got a cd.

They'd either improve their situation, sometimes with luxury items, invest money, quit their job, retire earlier, save more money, etc. Not one person has said they'd work more or produce more.
by jafs
Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:57 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29051

Re: Citizen's Dividend

Why has nobody responded to my questions about sophie's tax/neutrality idea? I hope you at least read it - it would mean that not only aren't millionaires getting a CD, they're actually getting a net loss of income through higher taxes to fund the program.
by jafs
Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:56 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29051

Re: Citizen's Dividend

As far as "utopian" goes, I'd say that many of you are much more utopian in outlook than I am. I see the flaws in government, but also in the private sector. And, I'd like to improve both - that doesn't mean I think there are perfect solutions. As I've already said - all systems have drawbacks. If y...
by jafs
Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:51 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29051

Re: Citizen's Dividend

Am I being silly not wanting to go on Medicaid? I've heard horror stories, but if it's a secret gift horse, then I'm a lot closer to FI than I thought. :P It galls me that there's no option, though. Yes, that's exactly what you should do, given that you're a well-educated, working professional with...
by jafs
Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:49 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29051

Re: Citizen's Dividend

Every time I've looked at ACA plans I've found very good ones with reasonable premiums and cost-sharing stuff as well. You have to be between 100-400% of the federal poverty level, with good subsidies at the lower end of that. The "silver" plan is the best, with cost sharing as well as premium subs...
by jafs
Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:47 pm
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29051

Re: Citizen's Dividend

So this would help PS do things he could do already, but isn't doing. And, given the fact that he could easily do them now, in his own words, he doesn't need this program. He needs this program in terms of improving his living standard because the cost of spending his current savings is especially ...
by jafs
Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:53 am
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29051

Re: Citizen's Dividend

The part I agree with here is that our current system is too complicated/bureaucratic, and that there are some bad incentives in it, ones that discourage what we want to encourage, and vice versa. A cd would simplify the system, for sure. But so would a mi program - just set the minimum income leve...
by jafs
Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:25 am
Forum: Other Discussions
Topic: Citizen's Dividend
Replies: 179
Views: 29051

Re: Citizen's Dividend

Actually, if the cd isn't taxed, and it eliminates/replaces SS, we'd do better with it. We could retire sooner, not have to subsidize our retirement until SS kicks in, pay the same or maybe a bit less for health care with an ACA plan (than for Medicare), and wind up with more income in retirement. I...