I think the deciding factor comes down to what tax bracket, VTSMX being generally considered superior except for the top tax brackets, I forget the cross over point.craigr wrote:
After tax returns for 10 years:
VTCLX: 8.14%
VTSMX: 8.08%
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- Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:25 am
- Forum: Stocks
- Topic: Is there a broad stock market index fund that doesn't pay dividends?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 23062
Re: Is there a broad stock market index fund that doesn't pay dividends?
- Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:39 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: The fifth economic pattern
- Replies: 14
- Views: 9540
Re: The fifth economic pattern
Agreed.ochotona wrote: I think it's Deflation. I don't think it's a fifth pattern.
The overall trend has been deflationary with monetary policy being expanded to conteract the otherwise natural trend.
- Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:27 am
- Forum: Other Discussions
- Topic: Replies to Posts
- Replies: 2
- Views: 2557
Replies to Posts
I hope we agree there is no dumb question? In either case, does anyone have advice on how to locate one's last post when using the features: 1. Show new replies to your posts. or 2. Show unread posts since last visit. When I click on the above links, it takes me to the threads, but I still am unsure...
- Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:12 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Funds
- Topic: Proposal To Change This Section To "Other Lazy Portfolios"
- Replies: 29
- Views: 51392
Re: Proposal To Change This Section To "Other Lazy Portfolios"
It is fine by me. I do believe there is a manager in Australia that mangers money for others with a PP approach as well as at least one hedge fund that has a similar but modified approach, in a similar manner how PRPFX is not really 25x4 any more either. Another option would be to add a second sub...
- Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:52 am
- Forum: Stocks
- Topic: Is there a broad stock market index fund that doesn't pay dividends?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 23062
Re: Is there a broad stock market index fund that doesn't pay dividends?
Interesting twist on the usual advice on stocks in taxable bonds in tax deferred, in general.
This is an interesting article on AA as well
http://beta.morningstar.com/articles/73 ... s-of-.html
This is an interesting article on AA as well
http://beta.morningstar.com/articles/73 ... s-of-.html
- Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:31 am
- Forum: Other Discussions
- Topic: Vaccines
- Replies: 69
- Views: 35127
Re: Vaccines
Some times I wonder about the new adjuvants and related technology they are bringing into the mix that will show problems more distinctly further down the road. Although I identify with one side of this argument, I do think there is a small area of uncertainty. Also, just think about the flu vacci...
- Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:07 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: No where to hide
- Replies: 804
- Views: 355766
Re: No where to hide
they may end up severely under funded for that luxury and that is the danger. There is no alternative. Load up on obscenely overvalued stocks? Load up on longest duration T-Bonds while they're at a 5,000 year low in interest rates, soon to reverse course starting in the next few days? Load up ...
- Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:06 am
- Forum: Bonds
- Topic: Change to SHY & TLT Share Holders ICE Index
- Replies: 5
- Views: 4869
Re: Change to SHY & TLT Share Holders ICE Index
Similar changes for SHY: "Important Notice Regarding Change in Investment Policy – On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 the iShares Trust Board of Trustees approved the change in the investment objective for the iShares 1-3 Year Treasury Bond ETF (ticker symbol: SHY). Beginning on or around Thursday,...
- Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:04 am
- Forum: Bonds
- Topic: Change to SHY & TLT Share Holders ICE Index
- Replies: 5
- Views: 4869
Change to SHY & TLT Share Holders ICE Index
If you haven't heard, see the release below. Any thoughts, opinions or concerns from the group? IMPORTANT NOTICE REGARDING CHANGE IN INVESTMENT POLICY iShares® iShares Trust Supplement dated January 29, 2016 to the Summary Prospectus dated July 1, 2015 for the iShares 20+ Year Treasury Bond ETF (TLT...
- Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:12 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: HBPP component predictions for 2016
- Replies: 16
- Views: 12367
Re: HBPP component predictions for 2016
Cash Best Risk Reward HBPP Component in 2016
- Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:02 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: The Next Asset to Perform?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 7799
The Next Asset to Perform?
Recently I have been living in fear, complete terror. Or maybe not. I have been recommending, well not recommending much actually. I have been finding the correction I anticipated in the recent past has come to pass with most things returning to the mean. Of course as someone originally measurin...
- Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:41 am
- Forum: Stocks
- Topic: Is there a broad stock market index fund that doesn't pay dividends?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 23062
Re: Is there a broad stock market index fund that doesn't pay dividends?
i like VIG who doesn't.. it pays back with high interest..... or we will break your legs. ;) "if you put up a three to four thousand dollar investment, you can make fifty thousand distributing, ...?" One could always use baby Berkshire Hathaway class B shares. I believe that they are ver...
- Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:57 pm
- Forum: Stocks
- Topic: Is there a broad stock market index fund that doesn't pay dividends?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 23062
Re: Is there a broad stock market index fund that doesn't pay dividends?
So is there a group consensus on specific funds that would be superior to VTI? And if so, superior in what way/for what reason?
Thank you
Thank you
- Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:58 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: PSA: I now have a 3-year period with no gains
- Replies: 275
- Views: 126273
Re: PSA: I now have a 3-year period with no gains
Are you confusing the role of the PP w that of the VP? Why not keep money you can't lose in the PP and allocate that which is more discretionary to a VP? Because i am not a sheep of HB. Well whether you are a sheep, goat, or donkey, I have no idea... However, you seem to be a bit confused about som...
- Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:58 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: PSA: I now have a 3-year period with no gains
- Replies: 275
- Views: 126273
Re: PSA: I now have a 3-year period with no gains
Are you confusing the role of the PP w that of the VP?
Why not keep money you can't lose in the PP and allocate that which is more discretionary to a VP?
Why not keep money you can't lose in the PP and allocate that which is more discretionary to a VP?
- Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:30 pm
- Forum: Other Discussions
- Topic: What are your favorite online news sources?
- Replies: 53
- Views: 28164
Re: What are your favorite online news sources?
Seems to me all main stream news sources are biased, leaning to some degree on various topics. An insightful exercise is to note which organization one feels is not (or the least) biased. The bias of that organization tends to match one's personal bias imho.
- Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:03 pm
- Forum: Variable Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: What do you think of Doug Casey? Is he legit?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 8883
Re: What do you think of Doug Casey? Is he legit?
Investing in his Argentina project seems as advisable as investing in the d'Anconia Copper Mines.
- Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:36 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: No where to hide
- Replies: 804
- Views: 355766
Re: No where to hide
What economic state are we in? Prosperity? Recession? Inflation? Deflation? deflation Ding, Ding, Ding, we have a winner imho. I think without the manipulation of markets through interest rates, this would be painfully obvious to all. This central planning that adjusting interest rates to move ...
- Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:05 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: PP for retirement in a comparative context
- Replies: 12
- Views: 8592
Re: PP for retirement in a comparative context
There was an edit, that was easily missed and rather relevant... "If you've been following this update for the past several years, you'll notice that the Harry Browne portfolio has fallen to the middle of the pack. A spreadsheet error greatly exaggerated the Harry Browne portfolio performance f...
- Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:36 am
- Forum: Variable Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Gold Junior Miners (GDXJ)
- Replies: 8
- Views: 5802
Re: Gold Junior Miners (GDXJ)
[align=center][img width=800]http://i59.tinypic.com/255l1nd.png[/img][/align] I think there is a good potential for a nice play in here some where for a VP. I would be curious how this graph would look with the trend lines starting from the point just below the first red arrow? It seems the more ...
- Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:40 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Forum Crash...
- Replies: 48
- Views: 23447
Re: Forum Crash...
Timing of forum crashes is suspicious. Anyone have a chart? This cracked me up! I am willing to donate my 0.02, don't go with any shared hosting. As mentioned above they are often oversold. Even when not, if only one of the people sharing gets a significant increase in traffic your site will also...
- Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:08 am
- Forum: Bonds
- Topic: Student Loans as Bond Distribution
- Replies: 32
- Views: 18287
Re: Student Loans as Bond Distribution
Just noticed this thread. I'm gonna have to take the same position I do with paying down mortgage debt. 1) The REAL problem is people taking this debt on without properly calculating its benefit to them. It either makes strategic sense to take on marginal debt for a marginal benefit, or it does n...
- Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:57 pm
- Forum: Gold
- Topic: Adaptive gold allocation rule
- Replies: 55
- Views: 28551
Re: Adaptive gold allocation rule
OINK OINK!
- Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:54 am
- Forum: Bonds
- Topic: Student Loans as Bond Distribution
- Replies: 32
- Views: 18287
Re: Student Loans as Bond Distribution
LMAO For a moment I thought you were implying my posts were so irrational as to be influenced by drugs 
Interesting progression, I like the idea of including a -1 for those not all here

Interesting progression, I like the idea of including a -1 for those not all here

- Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:28 am
- Forum: Bonds
- Topic: Student Loans as Bond Distribution
- Replies: 32
- Views: 18287
Re: Student Loans as Bond Distribution
@ PS I agree debt is the devil in finance. Hate it, might not be providing enough details to make this apparent online... @TenPaGa I can understand your reasoning, w real estate I have been holding off for years for all of those reasons, there is a tax consideration w/ real estate that factors in t...