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- Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:21 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: EU-PP is still valid?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 12937
Re: EU-PP is still valid?
Hello, if my calculations are correct, dividends and returns since begining of 2013 , Europe has: +8,4% Please confirm if it is right. Thank you. Hello Frugal, I calculated the numbers from the beginning of 2014 as this is year in question. For my portfolio the performance until now is around 7 % s...
- Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:41 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: EU-PP is still valid?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 12937
Re: EU-PP is still valid?
Strange, I have the greatest year ever: (10% cash, 20 % Gold, 30 % Bonds, 40 % equities allocation): ETFS Gold Trust 5,44% iShares Euro Govt Bond 1-3yr UCITS ETF 0,74% iShares Euro Govt Bond 15-30yr UCITS ETF 19,15% iShares MSCI World UCITS ETF DIST 14,95% SPDR Gold Trust 5,40% Totaal YTD 14,00% Co...
- Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:09 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: EU-PP is still valid?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 12937
Re: EU-PP is still valid?
Frugal, You have a European PP already, correct? I am curious how it has done so far this year. Year-to-date the US PP seems to be up about 7%. We are all slightly negative in the gold slice, but you should be up 5-6% in gold because of the falling value of the Euro relative to the dollar. I don't ...
- Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:48 pm
- Forum: Stocks
- Topic: European PP: Investing in U.S. stocks too?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 22585
Re: European PP: Investing in U.S. stocks too?
We live in a global economy; so I think you have to invest Global, despite the currency risk. So I have 30 % EU stock, 30 % US stock, 30 % Asia, Pacific, Latin Amer. & 10 % national stocks. Or just take VT / VTI I agree with you that we live in a globalized economy. But I doubt that we therefo...
- Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:36 pm
- Forum: Stocks
- Topic: European PP: Investing in U.S. stocks too?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 22585
Re: European PP: Investing in U.S. stocks too?
Hi Jake, thanks for your advice which would be fine if I'd have a VP. The point is: I don't wanna have a VP which may sound strange. But I have been trading and speculating so long that I have enough from screening charts, filtering buy candidates, shorting wheat etc. If I had a VP I couldn't help ...
- Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:08 am
- Forum: Stocks
- Topic: European PP: Investing in U.S. stocks too?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 22585
Re: European PP: Investing in U.S. stocks too?
We live in a global economy; so I think you have to invest Global, despite the currency risk. So I have 30 % EU stock, 30 % US stock, 30 % Asia, Pacific, Latin Amer. & 10 % national stocks. Or just take VT / VTI I agree with you that we live in a globalized economy. But I doubt that we therefo...
- Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:17 am
- Forum: Stocks
- Topic: European PP: Investing in U.S. stocks too?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 22585
Re: European PP: Investing in U.S. stocks too?
Hi Jake, thanks for your advice which would be fine if I'd have a VP. The point is: I don't wanna have a VP which may sound strange. But I have been trading and speculating so long that I have enough from screening charts, filtering buy candidates, shorting wheat etc. If I had a VP I couldn't help b...
- Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:53 pm
- Forum: Stocks
- Topic: European PP: Investing in U.S. stocks too?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 22585
European PP: Investing in U.S. stocks too?
Hi dear all, ah you Americans, I envy you. As to investing you are the lucky ones. Got the world's biggest financial markets, the longest investment tradition and people who are willing to take risks. For Germans things are quite different. Born in a country of savers, insurance buyers and risk avoi...
- Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:47 am
- Forum: Gold
- Topic: Should €-Investors hedge Gold against $?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 3927
Re: Should €-Investors hedge Gold against $?
You should be buying physical gold. Not ETFs, and especially not some hedged ETFs. It's clear: nothing else than physical gold, there's no question about that for me. But you could hedge it with a currency option. I am skeptical towards non-US PP. HB stated clearly that during the crisis people run...
- Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:46 am
- Forum: Gold
- Topic: Should €-Investors hedge Gold against $?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 3927
Should €-Investors hedge Gold against $?
HB states in his books that investors should invest primarily in their own currency. So American investors should buy primarily U.S. stocks while Europeans should at least have a good exposure to the European market? How about gold? It trades in $ - should investors from other world regions hedge th...
- Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:05 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: 5th Economic Climate? Financial repression
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4017
Re: 5th Economic Climate? Financial repression
All asset classes move in lockstep, how can that be great for the PP? In the longterm that will not work :o. But congratulation to all PP holders for holding course. ::) As we have seen yesterday stocks, bonds and gold simultaneously shot through the roof as BB announced that there will be no tap...
- Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:33 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Investing in the PP - Why Do I Feel Like My Head is in the Sand?
- Replies: 60
- Views: 28712
Re: Investing in the PP - Why Do I Feel Like My Head is in the Sand?
I sometimes think a basket of high-quality dividend-paying stocks would be the best way; however, nowadays, EVERYONE thinks dividend paying stocks are the way to go, so my instinct is to avoid them Christina, Your instinct is right ;). Stocks are REALLY volatile and the opposite of an "ultra-s...
- Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:01 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Investing in the PP - Why Do I Feel Like My Head is in the Sand?
- Replies: 60
- Views: 28712
Re: Investing in the PP - Why Do I Feel Like My Head is in the Sand?
Combine those two and its easy to understand why looking at a portfolio every day (or even ofter?) is a sure fire way to be and remain anxious about it, even if you have solid gains on longer timeframes. I think it's getting really interesting here. We are talking about the damages to our bodies, s...
- Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:54 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Investing in the PP - Why Do I Feel Like My Head is in the Sand?
- Replies: 60
- Views: 28712
Re: Investing in the PP - Why Do I Feel Like My Head is in the Sand?
Sorry to hear that, frommi
. For which reasons did you quit? Doesn't a split in a PP and a VP work for you?

- Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:59 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Investing in the PP - Why Do I Feel Like My Head is in the Sand?
- Replies: 60
- Views: 28712
Re: Investing in the PP - Why Do I Feel Like My Head is in the Sand?
The PP is a zen portfolio for me. It meets my needs with no stress, and lets me focus my financial efforts on what I can control rather than on what I cannot. Zen Portfolio! Now that's a nice and absolutely appropriate name for the PP – I fully agree with you, Tyler - OOOMMMM ;D ;D. I also agree w...
- Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:18 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Investing in the PP - Why Do I Feel Like My Head is in the Sand?
- Replies: 60
- Views: 28712
Re: Investing in the PP - Why Do I Feel Like My Head is in the Sand?
What astonishes me in many discussions I find here is how many people doubt the effectiveness of the PP. For me the real value of the PP is that it ties specific asset classes to specific economic conditions - an assumption that I agree with because it's logical to me. Furthermore it describes any e...
- Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:28 am
- Forum: Stocks
- Topic: Setting up the stock part of the PP
- Replies: 11
- Views: 7893
Setting up the stock part of the PP
I live in Germany and want to set up the prosperity part of the PP, i.e. stocks. I often read that, living in the strongest country of the EU, one could get by by buying a DAX-ETF. I'm not sure if an investment in only 30 stocks would be enough to give me the calmness that should come with the PP. I...
- Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:24 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: A change of heart about the PP after reading another Harry book
- Replies: 43
- Views: 37604
Re: A change of heart about the PP after reading another Harry book
In the long run, it actually does not matter where the money went. Wherever it went, it has caused misallocation of resources, which cannot be remedied due to the continued interference in the market. You are right, misallocation of capital is the name of the game in a non-free-market-economy. Sad ...
- Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:01 am
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: A change of heart about the PP after reading another Harry book
- Replies: 43
- Views: 37604
Re: A change of heart about the PP after reading another Harry book
At the moment I'm reading Harry's book "Why government doesn't work". And as much as I like the intellectual clarity of Murray Rothbard, I'm always hooked by the practical approach that Harry had to things. This goes as well for his book "how to find freedom" which boils down to ...
- Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:26 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Not Even Harry Browne Thought It Was Going To Be This Bad
- Replies: 399
- Views: 147087
Re: Not Even Harry Browne Thought It Was Going To Be This Bad
I don't like anything that I consider subject to great risk at the hands of obvious lunatics such as the Federal Reserve. That eliminates all US-based securities. I for my part consider the Austrian economcic Theory - especially von Mises and Rothbard - as the work of the most enlightening economis...
- Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:32 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Not Even Harry Browne Thought It Was Going To Be This Bad
- Replies: 399
- Views: 147087
Re: Not Even Harry Browne Thought It Was Going To Be This Bad
I'm not sure I follow your logic, Libertarian666. Are you saying that without Fed interference, interest rates would be much higher? Yes, of course. They are the only purchasers of T-Bonds. What happens when the only purchasers of anything stop purchasing? The price will go... down. This isn't rock...
- Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:23 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: Not Even Harry Browne Thought It Was Going To Be This Bad
- Replies: 399
- Views: 147087
Re: Not Even Harry Browne Thought It Was Going To Be This Bad
Also, if rates rise, we have 25% of our money in an short-term bonds--an asset type that quickly adjusts to rising rates and will give us nice fat interest payments. Almost as if it was all planned out that way… ;) in this discussion the arguments that have the most value in my humble opinion are ...
- Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:00 pm
- Forum: Gold
- Topic: Goldmoney etc.
- Replies: 7
- Views: 5332
Re: Goldmoney etc.
does this mean you have 80% of portfolio in the German financial system / geography? yes it does. I thought about putting 12.5% of stocks (e.g. 50%) in europe and U.S. as well as half of the bond portion to U.S. In this case and with gold around 40 % of PP would be outside Germany itself. May I ask...
- Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:52 pm
- Forum: Permanent Portfolio Discussion
- Topic: PP investors--stay the course
- Replies: 282
- Views: 143299
Re: PP investors--stay the course
The PP is a fine asset allocation, as long as cash interest rates hold up with inflation and longterm-bonds deliver interest rates above inflation. From 1970-2009 this was the case. From 1940-1970 this was not the case and therefore the PP delivered only <1% real returns. You can now argue that we ...
- Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:05 am
- Forum: Gold
- Topic: The GOLD scream room
- Replies: 3939
- Views: 2405070
Re: The GOLD scream room
For all those who are losing their nerves about the continuing fall of the precious metals: The Gold industry (miners) is so bullish about the future that it's nearly hard to believe it. If you watch the data of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) you will see that the commercial hedgers...